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    How does the case fatality rate (CFR) of COVID-19 compare to other virus outbreaks and diseases?

    Once again, we should stress what we discussed above. One has to understand the measurement challenges and the definitions to interpret estimates of the CFR for COVID-19, particularly those relating to an ongoing outbreak.

    As comparisons, the table shows the case fatality rates for other disease outbreaks. The CFR of SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV were high: 10% and 34%, respectively.48

    The US seasonal flu has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1% – much lower than the current CFR for COVID-19.

    Sources of data shown in the table:
    SARS-CoV: Venkatesh, S. & Memish, Z.A. (‎2004)‎. SARS: the new challenge to international health and travel medicine. EMHJ – Eastern Mediterranean Health Journal, 10 (‎4-5)‎, 655-662, 2004.
    SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV: Munster, V. J., Koopmans, M., van Doremalen, N., van Riel, D., & de Wit, E. (2020). A novel coronavirus emerging in China—key questions for impact assessment. New England Journal of Medicine, 382(8), 692-694.
    Seasonal flu: US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Influenza Burden, 2018-19.
    Ebola: Shultz, J. M., Espinel, Z., Espinola, M., & Rechkemmer, A. (2016). Distinguishing epidemiological features of the 2013–2016 West Africa Ebola virus disease outbreak. Disaster Health, 3(3), 78-88.
    Ebola: World Health Organization (2020). Ebola virus disease: Factsheet.

    Disease with Estimated case fatality rate (CFR)

    SARS-CoV 10%
    Venkatesh and Memish (‎2004)‎
    Munster et al. (2020)

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    MERS
    -CoV 34%
    Munster et al. (2020)

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    Seasonal flu (US) 0.1%
    US CDC

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    Ebola 50%
    40% in the 2013-16 outbreak

    WHO (2020)
    Shultz et al. (2016)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    How does the case fatality rate (CFR) of COVID-19 compare to other virus outbreaks and diseases?...
    Let's take a body count on November 3rd and see, eh?
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    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No doubt we'll see worse numbers in the US since very few Chinese are as fat as Americans.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6208a8.htm
    No doubt. We're a sugar-addicted nation. Over consumption of sugar leads to heart and circulatory issues, diabetes,
    hypertension, etc. Then all the drugs given to these patients lead to further compromise their immune systems making it
    difficult to fight off infections and diseases. It's a vicious circle.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    No doubt. We're a sugar-addicted nation. Over consumption of sugar leads to heart and circulatory issues, diabetes,
    hypertension, etc. Then all the drugs given to these patients lead to further compromise their immune systems making it
    difficult to fight off infections and diseases. It's a vicious circle.
    Agreed, hence more Americans than the starving ChiComs are health compromised. OTOH, our medical system is better given it isn't overloaded.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You kneel before the Crown don't you? That makes you a British cocksucker.

    Not a Trump fan, so you're wrong about that too. Go back to your drinking, monarchist.

    You fucking tard, I was born in the first town in America. Shut the fuck up retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    You fucking tard, I was born in the first town in America. Shut the fuck up retard.
    Vinland is the Norwegian name for Cape Cod.
    Only morons don't check their facts.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Vinland
    Vinland, the land of wild grapes in North America that was visited and named by Leif Eriksson about the year 1000 CE. Its exact location is not known, but it was probably the area surrounding the Gulf of Saint Lawrence in what is now eastern Canada.


    Go peddle your anti-American bullshit some place else, Rune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    You fucking tard, I was born in the first town in America. Shut the fuck up retard. Vinland is the Norwegian name for Cape Cod.
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    Global death by Corona numbers surpass US seasonal flu numbers 32,000 to 23,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Global death by Corona numbers surpass US seasonal flu numbers 32,000 to 23,000.
    What do you predict the numbers will be next Sunday? On Easter? On Cinco de Mayo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Only morons don't check their facts.

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Vinland
    Vinland, the land of wild grapes in North America that was visited and named by Leif Eriksson about the year 1000 CE. Its exact location is not known, but it was probably the area surrounding the Gulf of Saint Lawrence in what is now eastern Canada.


    Go peddle your anti-American bullshit some place else, Rune.
    Does the word probably mean anything to you, Cunt? There is massive amounts of evidence that the Norsemen were here.
    Go fuck yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    No doubt. We're a sugar-addicted nation. Over consumption of sugar leads to heart and circulatory issues, diabetes,
    hypertension, etc. Then all the drugs given to these patients lead to further compromise their immune systems making it
    difficult to fight off infections and diseases. It's a vicious circle.
    Obesity is definitely a problem in the U.S. and other industrialized countries. As you pointed out, it can lead to a host of comorbidities. That being said, especially for us over-60s, a bit of extra "fluff" is a good thing. It gives us the reserve to fight infections especially those that attack the lungs. When you are struggling to get enough O2 but can't, your body will begin to cannibalize your fat and then muscle in order to survive. Example: In 1994 I got an influenza-like illness that put me flat on my back for 10 days with temps as high as 105F. Ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. I weighed 95 lbs when I came out; looked like a survivor of Auschwitz. Had started out at 115. I was saved by my relative youthfulness and general good health. Many of we older folks don't have those luxuries now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Well, Trump cut flights from China very early—and was called a racist for it. That helped, right?

    Trump has been harping on about being so dependent on China—right again.

    And if we learn nothing else from this, it’s time to get serious about immigration policy.
    He was called racist not for cutting flights from China but for trying to call the disease by a term which included the word 'China.'

    The fact is that it is not possible to prevent a world wide pandemic from entering our country by cutting immigration. We cannot isolate our country in a world economy. North Korea tried that. It hasn't worked out well for their economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello BOOMER REMOVER,



    Mardi Gras and Florida spring break were two very bad ideas. Both regions are quickly turning into hot spots now.
    Our mayor was very smart to shut down the Houston rodeo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Obesity is definitely a problem in the U.S. and other industrialized countries. As you pointed out, it can lead to a host of comorbidities. That being said, especially for us over-60s, a bit of extra "fluff" is a good thing. It gives us the reserve to fight infections especially those that attack the lungs. When you are struggling to get enough O2 but can't, your body will begin to cannibalize your fat and then muscle in order to survive. Example: In 1994 I got an influenza-like illness that put me flat on my back for 10 days with temps as high as 105F. Ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. I weighed 95 lbs when I came out; looked like a survivor of Auschwitz. Had started out at 115. I was saved by my relative youthfulness and general good health. Many of we older folks don't have those luxuries now.
    Your reporting is going to spawn a flu diet craze.

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