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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Indeed. Since we both posted proof that the story was already confirmed by an independent source with no apparent political bias, I suspect that Christiefa Antifa is sucking up to her Queen without understanding the facts of the case.
    There is nothing wrong with questioning the source.

    I always make sure the sources from left-wing and right-wing news are legitimate.

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    IFCN fact checkers?

    In 2015, the Poynter institute launched the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN).

    In 2017, the Poynter Institute received $1.3 million from the Open Society Foundations. The Open Society Foundations (OSF), formerly the Open Society Institute, is an international grant-making network founded by George Soros.

    In 2019, Poynter used various "fake news" databases (including those curated by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, Merrimack College, PolitiFact, and Snopes) to compile a list of over 515 news websites that it labeled "unreliable." Poynter called on advertisers to "blacklist" the sites on the list.

    The list included conservative news websites such as the Washington Examiner, The Washington Free Beacon, and The Daily Signal.

    After backlash, Poynter retracted the list, citing "weaknesses in the methodology." Poynter issued a statement saying "We regret that we failed to ensure that the data was rigorous before publication, and apologize for the confusion and agitation caused by its publication."


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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    There is nothing wrong with questioning the source. I always make sure the sources from left-wing and right-wing news are legitimate.
    There is something wrong with a fallacious argument. A genetic fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when a claim is accepted or rejected based on the source of the evidence, rather than on the quality or applicability of the evidence. It is also a line of reasoning in which a perceived defect in the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence that discredits the claim or thing itself. The fallacy is committed when an idea is either accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    It's not 1866,nice try.
    The last known Klan lynching occurred on March 21, 1981. Nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Genetic fallacy. A genetic fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when a claim is accepted or rejected based on the source of the evidence, rather than on the quality or applicability of the evidence. It is also a line of reasoning in which a perceived defect in the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence that discredits the claim or thing itself. The fallacy is committed when an idea is either accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit.

    Who checks the IFCN fact checkers?

    People like me actually read hyperlinks. You might try it sometime. First example:




    "In reality, nobody at the university’s Counselling and Mental Health Center, liberal or otherwise, called for masculinity to be “designated a mental illness” or treated as a mental health issue. That characterization of the new program came from the Fox & Friends TV program and the PJ Media web site, not from those behind the initiative itself. The emphasis on “mental health” in all three reports appeared to stem from no more than the fact that it was the Counselling and Mental Health Center that was behind the program.

    In response to these misleading and sensationalist reports, the Counselling and Mental Health Center at UT took the step of directly refuting the “mental health issue” claim in a statement posted on the school’s web site:
    The MasculinUT program does not treat masculinity as a “mental health issue,” and any such statements are simply not accurate. It was established to bring more men to the table to address interpersonal violence, sexual assault and other issues. Like other UT programs related to sexual assault and interpersonal violence, MasculinUT is housed administratively in the university’s Counseling and Mental Health Center. Its goals include helping men explore ways to reduce sexual violence, helping students take responsibility for their actions, and fostering healthier relationships on campus and beyond."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    There is something wrong with a fallacious argument. A genetic fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when a claim is accepted or rejected based on the source of the evidence, rather than on the quality or applicability of the evidence. It is also a line of reasoning in which a perceived defect in the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence that discredits the claim or thing itself. The fallacy is committed when an idea is either accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit.
    There is also a moral lesson of "the boy who cried wolf". For example, Breitbart might publish an article that is actually accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    There is also a moral lesson of "the boy who cried wolf". For example, Breitbart might publish an article that is actually accurate.
    The veracity of the content is what should be considered, rather than dismissing the source without an attempt at verification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    The veracity of the content is what should be considered, rather than dismissing the source without an attempt at verification.
    Hence "fact checking".

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    They were already here held in forced bondage by the CSA
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    People like me actually read hyperlinks
    I doubt it. In this case, you decried the information based on someone else's opinion of the source, rather than noting that Mr. Lefty and myself had already provided independent verification. Doubtless you were hastening to ingratiate yourself with your Queen and failed to perform due diligence before you embarrassed yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    The last known Klan lynching occurred on March 21, 1981. Nice try.
    By who?
    Grind pay your bail?
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I just noticed the link is pjmedia.com so you're probably right.

    Analysis / Bias
    In review, PJ Media is a popular conservative news and opinion website that garners 13 million+ page views per month. PJ Media uses moderately loaded emotional language in their articles that favor the right, such as this: Suspended Pentagon Whistleblower Says FBI’s Russia Probe Was ‘All a Set-Up’. When it comes to sourcing of information, they usually use credible right leaning media sources. However, they also use poor sources such as Jihad Watch, which has been labeled a hate group by the SPLC. In general, almost all stories reviewed favored the right and denigrated the left through wording and story selection.

    A factual search reveals multiple instances of failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers.



    Overall, we rate PJ Media to be Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies as well as numerous failed fact checks. (7/92016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 01/19/2020)
    Post the one about Raw Story u guys love so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Hence "fact checking".
    Which I am reluctant to accept at face value from third parties whose own biases and factual errors are documented, for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    The veracity of the content is what should be considered, rather than dismissing the source without an attempt at verification.
    While I agree, to be fair, the Owl Woman doubted the source based on their history but when we both gave her another source, she accepted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I doubt it. In this case, you decried the information based on someone else's opinion of the source, rather than noting that Mr. Lefty and myself had already provided independent verification. Doubtless you were hastening to ingratiate yourself with your Queen and failed to perform due diligence before you embarrassed yourself.
    I showed you six examples of pjmedia's false and unproven articles. Would you care to prove them wrong?


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