Nope. Wrong.
As the EEOC says:
You literally said "Go back to Africa [where you came from]" was one of the messages conveyed by that flag.Ethnic slurs or other verbal or physical conduct because of national origin are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from," whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.
So above, the EEOC is telling you that is intimidation and unlawful.
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WAIT WHAT?
By "scare voters away" you mean "intimidate" right?
If they wanted to "scare voters away" why would they use a Confederate Flag? Oh right, because according to you, the message conveyed by that flag is telling people to "go back to where they came from", which the EEOC says is illegal intimidation.
What better tool to scare people away than the tool that represents white supremacy, slavery, and sending people back to where they came from?
Remember, Flash, those are all things you said the flag conveys.
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LV426 (02-27-2020)
Of course, you can't do that in the workplace just as you don't have the freedom to wave a flag calling for peace and justice. Your free speech is limited to private property with the owner's permission or public places. You cannot express offensive views in your place of business. Even without the EEOC regulations your boss is not likely to accept such language.
Notice, however, the EEOC guidelines you posted said "verbal or physical" conduct, not flags although I'm sure your employer would not permit those, either.
You are getting farther and farther afield. Now you are talking about workplace behavior and not constitutional freedom of speech.
You are in trouble: " Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults,
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There was a voter intimidation case in 2008 in Philadelphia when the New Black Panther Party members stood in the entrance to a polling place with a billy club shouting racial slurs. Most of those charges were dropped. "The federal government eventually obtained an injunction forbidding Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling location." This was much more intimidating than waving a flag a far distance from the poll, but it still did not fit the law.
This ignorant racist and his false equivalencies............LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Yes, you are dismissive of the issue because you boil down their legitimate claims of intimidation to mere "offense", like they're too hysterical and crazy to know what they're feeling and only you, the sober, fence-sitting asshole, can make the correct judgment because you worked in the war on poverty 60 years ago?
Doesn't seem to me like you learned anything from that experience, if you even had it and aren't just exaggerating or fabricating.
See, there you go again...dismissing and diminishing intimidation by waving it off as mere "offense".My point is that it is not consistent with current law or basic American principles or constitutional law. We can't ban anything that might offend someone.
Do you think "intimidation" and "offense" are synonyms and that's why you interchange them?
What do you mean? I'm not a lawyer, but I would probably start with a civil suit based on EEOC statutes that says that intimidation is unlawful.Please explain how you would handle cases in which a person feels they are intimidated?
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Did anyone threaten to harm them if they voted or did not vote? Then, no, it was not intimidation.
The EEOC applies to the workplace by fellow employees or supervisors.
And "go back where they came from" is only one possible message the flag could represent. You cannot come up with all possibilities and say it represents all of them. Besides, messages not conveyed verbally are just vague symbolic speech.
But you keep forgetting the two main points:
1. The legal definition of intimidation
2. The 1st Amendment prohibits banning any kind of flag or symbol that is free expression.
That means the Constitution prohibits any kind of fascist restrictions you want to impose on our freedoms--which you know because I have repeated it endlessly.
So...
You said one of the messages that flag conveys is "Go back to Africa".
Well, according to the EEOC statutes, that specific phrase is intimidation and unlawful.
So...I'm curious what criminal statute you're looking at when the civil EEOC statute makes it very clear that the messages conveyed by the flag you love so much are unlawful and illegal.
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BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
LV426 (02-27-2020)
Oh, but they are...
Ethnic slurs or other verbal or physical conduct because of national origin are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from," whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.
https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publicatio...-wOLCedits.pdf
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No, all you need to do is create a hostile environment; like the EEOC says is the case if that phrase "go back to where you came from" was uttered.
So...it's unlawful and illegal to tell someone to "go back to where you came from" because it creates a hostile environment...and intimidation would be a part of that hostility, wouldn't it?
It's sad you think that my problem with Nazis is merely a disagreement and not a moral conflict.Or, threatening to shoot or wlpe out people you disagree with--that is intimidating (by your definition). Yet, you found it acceptable to write it many times.
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TTQ64 (02-28-2020)
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