Reply With Quotethis is not only a dumb argument, but a dangerous one..............for when would 'intimidation' then be invalid?Originally Posted by LV426
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a while back you proposed an agreement about insults between us..........this is the second time you've reneged on it. should I safely assume you were lying?
you falsely assume that the confederate flag is nothing but white supremacy, which is easily debunked by the numerous pictures of blacks carrying the same flag.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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this is not only a dumb argument, but a dangerous one..............for when would 'intimidation' then be invalid?
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Wow. Bravely taking a stand against racism. What's next, bravely taking a stand for oxygen?
It's not enough to simply be opposed to racism; you have to go farther and understand the effects of that racism, how it is conveyed, and what tools are used to advance it.
You're far too lazy, or far too scared, to do that kind of work.
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Well, when somebody waving a Confederate flag tries to force somebody to be a slave we can charge them with intimidation (or false imprisonment).
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OK!
So then if you will be able to remember the outcome of the Civil War without a Confederate Flag being there, then how does that flag help you "remember history"?
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Wait - back up.
So you think the Civil War is the same thing as the Whiskey Rebellion?
You don't seem to have a good grasp of history at all. A flag isn't going to help you get a better handle on that history. Books and museums would though. Which is where all that shit belongs.
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The 1A doesn't protect intimidation.
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Right, and why do white nationalists wave the Confederate Flag about?
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rebel
you don't seem to have any comprehension. re-read my post again, thanks.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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None of that overrides our constitutional rights or changes the legal requirements for intimidation which is the main point about waving a flag--not what it represents.
And, I am sure I understand those elements of racism better than you.
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Yes, it does, because as you've admitted, that flag is a tool of oppression for white supremacists because of the history of that flag.
Right? You are so concerned with preserving history, so that comes with the warts of the history of that flag and how it was used as a tool of intimidation and oppression, and still is!
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rebel
waving a damned flag isn't intimidation just like wearing a tye dyed shirt isn't intimidation
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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The 1A doesn't protect intimidation.
The flag's history is that of a tool to advance that intimidation and oppression.
That's the flag's history you are so adamant we preserve. So you argue on the one hand that the flag has a history of being a tool of intimidation and oppression by white supremacists, but then you say on the other hand that you personally aren't intimidated by that so no one else should be.
Do you get the inherent contradiction there, Flash?
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TTQ64 (02-27-2020)
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So OK...when the flags were all erected, who was writing the laws that allowed them to erect those flags? The people who erected them.
So you retreat to this defense of your argument of "well, if it was intimidation, then it would be illegal for them to erect those flags". OK, but the same people erecting those flags were the ones who also decided the flag didn't intimidate anyone. Even though that was the reason for erecting them.
You understand how that worked, or are you going to continue with the sophistry?
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TTQ64 (02-27-2020)
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You're right. I apologize for that. My bad.
If it isn't white supremacy, why do white supremacists feel it represents their views and beliefs?
STOP.which is easily debunked by the numerous pictures of blacks carrying the same flag.
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