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    Default US Health officials: "CORONAVIRUS spread in US appears inevitable", "not if/but when"

    The SENATE was briefed today. I don't know if this is the VERSION they received.

    PS And TRUMP will blame it on Democrats! Or the deep state. On your mark, get set go.


    Live updates: Spread of coronavirus in U.S. appears inevitable, health officials warn


    Medical face masks are often used during flu season or a virus outbreak. Demand for masks has skyrocketed amid the coronavirus outbreak. (Elyse Samuels/The Washington Post)

    By Erica Werner,
    Lenny Bernstein,
    Lena H. Sun and
    Miriam Berger

    Feb. 25, 2020 at 1:58 p.m. EST

    Health officials in the United States warned Tuesday that the spread of the novel coronavirus in the country appears inevitable, marking a significant change in tone as global travel disruptions continued to worsen, South Korea neared 1,000 cases and Iran reported at least 15 deaths.


    China and South Korea announced new cases of the coronavirus, raising concerns in both nations about how long it could take for normal life to return. South Korea confirmed 144 more cases, bringing its total to 977, the most outside China. President Moon Jae-in visited the city of Daegu, where more than half of the country’s confirmed cases have been found, Tuesday afternoon local time.

    Travel disruptions continued to spread, with the United Arab Emirates, one of the world’s most critical aviation hubs, saying it would suspend all travel to and from Iran, where authorities confirmed that the death toll has reached at least 15. In Iran, an opposition lawmaker and the deputy health minister tested positive for the virus as the death toll there climbed.

    Early Tuesday, global markets appeared to stabilize after Monday’s heavy losses — until the Dow Jones fell 600 points, wiping out a 150-point gain.

    Here are the latest developments:

    ● The Chinese government said Tuesday that there had been 508 new confirmed cases by the end of the previous day, along with 74 deaths, bringing the total number of accumulated infections nationwide to 77,658, with 2,663 deaths.

    ●“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...wpisrc=nl_most

    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Yes, we'll have more cases but even so I don't believe that it's something to panic over. Are you truly worried yourself?
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    The SENATE was briefed today. I don't know if this is the VERSION they received.

    PS And TRUMP will blame it on Democrats! Or the deep state. On your mark, get set go.


    Live updates: Spread of coronavirus in U.S. appears inevitable, health officials warn


    Medical face masks are often used during flu season or a virus outbreak. Demand for masks has skyrocketed amid the coronavirus outbreak. (Elyse Samuels/The Washington Post)

    By Erica Werner,
    Lenny Bernstein,
    Lena H. Sun and
    Miriam Berger

    Feb. 25, 2020 at 1:58 p.m. EST

    Health officials in the United States warned Tuesday that the spread of the novel coronavirus in the country appears inevitable, marking a significant change in tone as global travel disruptions continued to worsen, South Korea neared 1,000 cases and Iran reported at least 15 deaths.


    China and South Korea announced new cases of the coronavirus, raising concerns in both nations about how long it could take for normal life to return. South Korea confirmed 144 more cases, bringing its total to 977, the most outside China. President Moon Jae-in visited the city of Daegu, where more than half of the country’s confirmed cases have been found, Tuesday afternoon local time.

    Travel disruptions continued to spread, with the United Arab Emirates, one of the world’s most critical aviation hubs, saying it would suspend all travel to and from Iran, where authorities confirmed that the death toll has reached at least 15. In Iran, an opposition lawmaker and the deputy health minister tested positive for the virus as the death toll there climbed.

    Early Tuesday, global markets appeared to stabilize after Monday’s heavy losses — until the Dow Jones fell 600 points, wiping out a 150-point gain.

    Here are the latest developments:

    ● The Chinese government said Tuesday that there had been 508 new confirmed cases by the end of the previous day, along with 74 deaths, bringing the total number of accumulated infections nationwide to 77,658, with 2,663 deaths.

    ●“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...wpisrc=nl_most

    This may happen, I have no doubt if Demonrats thought it would help them politically, they would spread it themselves, as in never let a good crisis go to waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yes, we'll have more cases but even so I don't believe that it's something to panic over. Are you truly worried yourself?
    Hopefully not like the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    Hopefully not like the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic
    This illness has roughly the same R0 value and the same mortality/morbidity rate as that pandemic. The difference is 100 years ago we did not have antibiotics or the supportive care (like O2, ventilators, etc.) that we have now. It is secondary bacterial infections that cause most influenza/coronavirus deaths. From what I've read so far 80% of the deaths from COVID-19 are in the 60+ age group. The Spanish flu took them as well, but also the young and otherwise healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    Hopefully not like the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic
    What about the Investors?
    Reduced Profits!
    Reduced Dividends!
    Shrinking Appreciation!

    You Bastard! Why do you just think of the Sick and Dying???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    Hopefully not like the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic
    I don't think that could happen. We have much more significant ways to identify and isolate. BUT my biggest concern, is the 'CAPITAL CLASS,' ours and the worlds, who won't ALLOW people and/goods to be blocked. Not harbors, ports, airports, highways, tunnels/chunnels or straight aways. They will not cancel contracts. Wait'll all the 'workarounds' or FLOUTING of law begins should this last any significant period of time (measured in MARKET terms, not disease terms).

    (Maybe TRUMP can use THIS ONE as a reason to shut down the southern border. Of course I haven't heard of any cases in Baja or S. America yet. Details).

    For the prayerful out there, get on your knees!
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 02-25-2020 at 01:56 PM.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    What about the Investors?
    Reduced Profits!
    Reduced Dividends!
    Shrinking Appreciation!

    You Bastard! Why do you just think of the Sick and Dying???
    BINGO!
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Trump faces backlash over coronavirus response

    A top CDC official says a U.S. outbreak is inevitable.



    Nurses work at an ICU ward specialized for patients infected by coronavirus in Wuhan, China. | Xiao Yijiu/Xinhua via AP
    By RACHEL ROUBEIN and ALICE MIRANDA OLLSTEIN

    02/25/2020 11:32 AM EST

    Updated: 02/25/2020 02:37 PM EST

    The Trump administration on Tuesday faced a new threat in the mounting coronavirus crisis: a big bipartisan backlash.
    Administration officials tried to swat away concerns their emergency request for $2.5 billion to address the outbreak was not enough even as some Republicans joined Democrats in criticizing the amount — and a lack of transparency around efforts to contain the disease on U.S. soil.

    The closed-door briefing with more than a dozen senators came amid new fears of an outbreak in the United States, with a top Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official warning that spread of the respiratory illness in the country is now inevitable. Officials said a burst of new cases in countries like South Korea and Italy prompted the new, urgent warning.








    That news and the angst on Capitol Hill is threatening to overwhelm the messaging from President Donald Trump and some of his aides, who have been trying to downplay the situation in hopes they can put a lid on the stock market tumble and cable news coverage of mounting deaths around the world.
    Trump's advisers and political allies are increasingly concerned that a botched response could hurt the U.S. economy and put his reelection prospects at risk. Public health and other administration officials fielded questions from more than a dozen senators for about an hour while HHS Secretary Alex Azar and acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf faced sharp criticism at a pair of Senate budget hearings.


    WHITE HOUSE

    Trump faces ‘black swan’ threat to the economy and reelection


    BY DAN DIAMOND AND NANCY COOK

    The Republican chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee at Azar's hearing accused the administration of making a “low ball” request.

    “It could be an existential threat to a lot of people in this country,” warned Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.). “So money should not be an object. We should try to contain and eradicate this as much as we can, both in the U.S. and helping our
    friends all over the world.”At the homeland security budget hearing, Sen. John Neely Kennedy (R-La.) criticized acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf for not providing enough information about risks from the outbreak.

    "You're supposed to keep us safe, and the American people deserve some straight answers on the coronavirus,
    and I'm not getting them from you,” Kennedy said....


    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...request-117329

    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    This illness has roughly the same R0 value and the same mortality/morbidity rate as that pandemic. The difference is 100 years ago we did not have antibiotics or the supportive care (like O2, ventilators, etc.) that we have now. It is secondary bacterial infections that cause most influenza/coronavirus deaths. From what I've read so far 80% of the deaths from COVID-19 are in the 60+ age group. The Spanish flu took them as well, but also the young and otherwise healthy.
    The Spanish flu killed the young and healthy because of an over reaction to the immune system!Some in a day or two.Stronger the immune system,the bigger the over reaction.
    Last edited by Judy Johnstone; 02-25-2020 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    US Health officials: "CORONAVIRUS spread in US appears inevitable", "not if/but when"
    How many dumb fucking threads are you going to start on this today? I think this makes number three or four.

    Again, how many Americans have died from this virus? ZERO

    Meanwhile, 80,000 died last year of the flu. The fear mongering on this is laughably lame and stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatFOWLWoman View Post
    Yes, we'll have more cases but even so I don't believe that it's something to panic over. Are you truly worried yourself?
    He has TDS; Trump Derangement Syndrome. He can't help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    The Spanish flu killed the young and healthy because of an over reaction to the immune system!Some in a day or two.Stronger the immune system,the bigger the over reaction.
    Kind of like Captain Trips in "The Stand."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Kind of like Captain Trips in "The Stand."
    Never seen it,I like movies from the 30's and 40's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    This may happen, I have no doubt if Demonrats thought it would help them politically, they would spread it themselves, as in never let a good crisis go to waste
    You mean like this:

    "Republicans Want You to Be Terrified of Ebola—So You'll Vote for Them"
    https://newrepublic.com/article/1198...ahead-midterms

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