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    There is an excellent article in the Spectator by Rod Liddle that truly sums up the infantile naive Left in the US and the UK, I commend it to all that haven't lost their minds.

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    Words we are not allowed to use any more now include ‘cultural Marxism’. Suella Braverman, now the Attorney General, used them last year and was immediately upbraided by the organisation Hope Not Hate. Very right-wing people sometimes use it too, you see, so it must never be uttered by anyone else. Banning the use of the phrase ‘cultural Marxism’ is about as culturally Marxist as it is possible to get, but I don’t suppose the cultural Marxists at Hope Not Hate appreciated the irony.

    Cultural Marxism is a largely 1960s excrescence in which everything must be seen through the prism of unequal power relations, other than which nothing else matters at all. Especially power relations regarding race and gender, the basis of identity politics. As such, then, cultural Marxism is a dominant paradigm in university courses across the country which deal with what we once knew as history (but now might be better named ‘resentment studies’), geography, sociology and all those non-academic subjects of no use to man nor beast, such as gender studies or urban studies.

    Of course, unequal power relations between black and white, male and female, gay and straight are interesting issues, worthy of discussion and debate. But with the cultural Marxist there is no debate or discussion: it is a bovine implacability and authoritarianism which defines the approach. And so if a university professor suggests that while western colonialism was undoubtedly a morally flawed venture, not absolutely everything that came out of it was bad, he will be eviscerated by the cultural Marxists, despite the fact that his statement is incontestable — even if that comparative ‘good’ is only a useful railway bridge, a schoolhouse or, er, democracy. Cultural Marxism is one-dimensional, tautologous, absolutist and intellectually stunted. And yet it has great purchase, even away from our campuses.

    I listened to a programme on BBC Radio 4 last week — a rare occurrence, for sure, given that the station has become a conduit for incessant whining, acquired victimhood and existential misery. It was a documentary called Not Enough Pride for Charley Pride and concerned the black middle-of-the-road US country singer named in the title. It was the perfect example of how the monomaniacal paradigm of cultural Marxism is now au courant pretty much everywhere.

    There is no debate or discussion: just a bovine implacability and authoritarianism
    I listened to this programme because I like country music, and quite enjoy Charley Pride, not least for his fine voice. But this programme was concerned with one thing and one thing alone — the fact that Charley was black in a predominantly white oeuvre. Nothing else mattered. Not his singing, his guitar-playing, his music (!), his very existence and character and essence — nothing mattered in this documentary beyond the colour of the man’s skin.

    Had I listened to the trailers or read the blurb on the BBC’s website I would have known what to expect. There was the implication, first of all, that we didn’t know about Charley because he was black. Well, sorry, I knew about him. Further, last July BBC Four ran a documentary about the bloke called Charley Pride — I’m Just Me, which covered identical ground. So, two documentaries in seven months. I don’t remember a single doc in the past ten years on the BBC about, say, Don Gibson, Marty Robbins, Chet Atkins or Kitty Wells, all of whom were white contemporaries of Charley and in musical terms arguably more important. This is the first point to make about cultural Marxism — its proponents will softly lie to you, to suit their agenda. Charley Pride — a man ignored because of his skin colour. No, and no again. He was inducted into the Grand Ole Opry by the time cultural Marxism had taken hold and started rewriting history.

    But the real issue is with cultural Marxism’s blindness, its funnel-thinking, its reductiveness, its impoverishment. There’s no doubt in my mind that Charley Pride’s blackness is of importance, especially as he was touring the USA at a time when Jim Crow had a certain hegemony: segregated towns and cities and schools, racial hatred, inequality. Country music was largely created by the poor white trash of the southern states and fans sometimes turned up to hear Charley Pride sing not knowing he was black, although it seems they quickly got over their shock. All of that is well worth remembering and should be part of any documentary about the chap.

    But it is a long way short of the totality, surely. To be defined not by the quality of your music or your voice, but solely by the fact that he was un-white. It does such a disservice to a talented man who, in his interviews, seemed far more interested in talking about baseball — his first and real love — than in the obsessive questioning of his racial origin. And yet it seems to me that Charley Pride’s skin colour was a big part of the reason Radio 4 decided to make a documentary about the man, and perhaps a big part of the reason BBC Four did the same thing.

    Jean-Paul Sartre, a Marxist himself, had it right: we are not like rocks. Our existence precedes our essence and however much we are influenced by the circumstances of our origins, we can nonetheless escape them. For the cultural Marxist, though, this escape is not possible. We are forever imprisoned by either victimhood or privilege and neither of these two things are in any way alterable, they simply are. Such a moronic way in which to view humankind.
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    Adam Smith's view was that humans and societies are primarily and generally pursuing economic interests.

    That is exactly what Solzhenitsyn would have considered the most pointless kind of life possible.

    Solzhenitsyn was repulsed by the rampant materialism, the avarice, the obsession with profit, the celebrity gossip industry, the pervasive shallowness of life he perceived in the capitalist west. He viewed the capitalist west as degenerate and hopelessly decadent.

    He maintained that the right kind of life, the right kind of society was spiritual. I think of him as a religious mystic, perhaps even a religious reactionary, who eschewed the excesses of both Soviet communism and western capitalism.

    I think of Tolstoy and Chekhov as the great liberal humanists of the Russian literary tradition,
    While Solzhenitsyn and Dostoyevsky are the great theocratic Russian nationalists.


    "A return to the forms of religion which perhaps existed a couple of centuries ago is absolutely impossible. On the contrary, in order to combat modern materialistic mores, as religion must, to fight nihilism and egotism, religion must also develop, must be flexible in its forms, and it must have a correlation with the cultural forms of the epoch. Religion always remains higher than everyday life. In order to make the elevation towards religion easier for people, religion must be able to alter its forms in relation to the consciousness of modern man."

    A. Solzhenitsyn

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    It is always wise to consider what actual Russians wrote about Solzhenitsyn.

    That carries more weight than the perceptions of rightwing posters who actually know almost nothing about the man, but are eager to exploit his legacy in a clumsy attempt to bash lefties and Bernie Sanders.

    Money quotes: While there were high hopes by American conservatives to exploit Solzhenitsyn as their pro-capitalist golden boy in the propaganda showdown with the USSR, in fact Solzhenitsyn shunned Ronald Reagan, declined to praise Western capitalism, and considered the West to be decadent and morally bankrupt.

    Remembering Solzhenitsyn: the chronicler of the Gulag

    Thursday marks 90 years since the birth of the late Nobel Prize-winning author, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. He died this August at his home outside Moscow, leaving behind an enduring legacy.

    The story of Solzhenitsyn’s life was one of survival. He lived through the horrors of Stalin’s labour camps, an assassination attempt, cancer, persecution – and 20 years in exile.

    The GULAG
    He fought for his country in World War II but was sentenced to eight years in a labour camp for criticizing Stalin in a personal letter to a friend.

    In prison he worked as a scientist, a miner and a bricklayer. But his mind was far away, creating and memorizing novels as 'One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich' and the Nobel-winning 'The First Circle'.

    After his 'Gulag Archipelago' was published in the West, the authorities accused him of treason and expelled him from the Soviet Union. His wife, Natalya, says Solzhenitsyn was surprised that all he faced was exile.

    Exile in the United States
    Rural Vermont in the United States became home for Solzhenitsyn, his wife and three sons.

    The writer spent up to 15 hours a day working, but he always found time for his children.

    “Our kids were still very little,” said Natalya Solzhenitsyna. “When they went to his classes they would all gather at his study door, waiting and they wouldn’t even think to be 30 seconds late, because they respected his time.”

    Seen as a beacon of freedom in the West, the writer never returned the praise it heaped upon him. Regarding the West as spiritually decadent, he criticized its democracy – and even declined an invitation to dinner with U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

    Homecoming
    When the Soviet Union collapsed, Solzhenitsyn returned to Russia as a hero – a prophet of the post-Soviet era. But the country he came back to was unknown to him.

    Although the writer won a state medal for his achievements, he was never really in step in what he described as an increasingly Western and materialistic new Russia.

    Solzhenitsyn shunned the limelight and spent his last years quietly with his family.

    He insisted that no monuments or museum be dedicated to him, and that his only legacy be his collection of works.

    https://www.rt.com/news/remembering-...-of-the-gulag/

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    Death to America. Death to the West. Long live Communism!
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    There is an excellent article in the Spectator by Rod Liddle that truly sums up the infantile naive Left in the US and the UK, I commend it to all that haven't lost their minds.

    https://app.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/...pig_index.html
    Great.
    Article by "Rob Liddle".

    Not a whiff of anything Slavic about that name.

    Having American and British writers tell us what to think about the Soviet Union does not cut the mustard. One has to go to the primary source - Russian dissidents, Russian writers, Russian intellectuals, ordinary Russian citizens - to have any hope of understanding what happened in the USSR during the 20th century.

    You yourself do not know jack shit about the USSR, about Soviet Communism, about what it was like to live there, and you are utterly ignorant of Russian history, culture, and the necessary historical backdrop to understand what happened. I doubt you have even actually ever spoken to anyone with first hand knowlege of the GULAG, or who lived in the USSR during the era of Stalin, Krushev, or Brezhnev.

    I have many relatives who were arrested by NKVD under Article 58 of the Soviet Penal code, and were sent to forced labor camps./

    There is nothing - nada, zilch - you can lecture me about the Soviet Union.


    Your uninformed attempts at lecturing ignores that fact that it was democratic socialists and Russian liberals who were among the first to take up arms and resist the communist coup, while conservative landed gentry and rightwing aristocracy were fleeing the country in a panic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The Idiot’s Guide to the Russian Revolutions and Civil War, with an Emphasis on anti-communist actions by Russian liberals and socialists

    Democratic Russia, February 1917 to October 1917
    Accomplishments of Russia’s liberal democratic provisional government which took power after the February 1917 revolution >> This was a government deeply committed to democracy, and its accomplishments were impressive:

    1. Complete civil liberties were granted.
    2. Thousands of political prisoners and exiles were released, and the old police was abolished.
    3. Flogging, exile to Siberia, and the death penalty were all abolished.
    4. Legal restrictions of individual rights based on nationality or religion were removed.
    5. Social reforms were enacted.
    6. Preparations for creating a new democratic, constitutional political system were undertaken.

    The Bolsheviks Detested Russian Liberals and Democratic Socialists
    Lenin and the Soviet Bolsheviks detested liberals and overthrew the Provisional Government via military coup in October.

    In the elections to the Constituent Assembly in November 2017 moderate democratic socialists and liberals won the clear and overwhelming majority of the votes. The Bolsheviks only won 24% of the vote, a clear minority. The Russian people chose democratic socialism. Unwilling to give up power to democratic socialists and liberals, the Bolsheviks (who controlled the Soviets), disbanded the Constituent Assembly on January 5, 1918.

    In 1918, Bolsheviks began arresting Russian liberals and socialists and imprisoning or executing them in the notorious Tsarist-era Peter and Paul Fortress, off the coast of Petrograd.

    Russian Liberals and Democratic Socialists were the first to take up arms against the Bolsheviks and establish anti-Communist governments throughout Russia.
    The moderate Socials Revolutionaries attempted an uprising against the Bolsheviks in the spring of 1918. Menshiviks and liberal Kadets established anti-Communist governments in various Russian cities in the late spring of 2018. While conservative oligarchs and rightwing aristocrats fled the country in a panic, Russian liberals and socialists committed to fighting the communists to the death.



    Source Reference: Professor Mark Steinberg University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...79#post3292779
    Vladimir Lenin denounced liberalism.
    Karl Marx was emphatically not a liberal, and cared not one whit for liberal democratic institutions.
    Lenin and the Bolsheviks were avowed opponents of Russian liberals and democratic socialists.
    The Bolsheviks overthrew a liberal-socialist provisional government in October 1917.


    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...39#post3369239

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Great.
    Article by "Rob Liddle".

    Not a whiff of anything Slavic about that name.

    Having American and British writers tell us what to think about the Soviet Union does not cut the mustard. One has to go to the primary source - Russian dissidents, Russian writers, Russian intellectuals, ordinary Russian citizens - to have any hope of understanding what happened in the USSR during the 20th century.

    You yourself do not know jack shit about the USSR, about Soviet Communism, about what it was like to live there, and you are utterly ignorant of Russian history, culture, and the necessary historical backdrop to understand what happened. I doubt you have even actually ever spoken to anyone with first hand knowlege of the GULAG, or who lived in the USSR during the era of Stalin, Krushev, or Brezhnev.

    I have many relatives who were arrested by NKVD under Article 58 of the Soviet Penal code, and were sent to forced labor camps./

    There is nothing - nada, zilch - you can lecture me about the Soviet Union.


    Your uninformed attempts at lecturing ignores that fact that it was democratic socialists and Russian liberals who were among the first to take up arms and resist the communist coup, while conservative landed gentry and rightwing aristocracy were fleeing the country in a panic.
    Holy shit, you're an ocean going fuckwit, pay a fucking attention. Rod Liddle is talking about the likes of Sanders and Corbyn and their purile attempts to resurrect the past. Oh, and by the way, I've been to Russia twice on business in the 90s so do shut the fuck up, you ponsified preening prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Holy shit, you're an ocean going fuckwit, pay a fucking attention. Rod Liddle is talking about the likes of Sanders and Corbyn and their purile attempts to resurrect the past. Oh, and by the way, I've been to Russia twice on business in the 90s so do shut the fuck up, you ponsified preening prick.
    The entire purported premise of your thread is about Solzhenitsyn, Communism, Marxism, and USSR.

    You do not know Jack shit about the Soviet Union or about marxisn-communism.

    There is no point getting mad at me for knowing more than you.

    You and some obscure British journalist are not acceptable expert sources on communism and the USSR

    If you actually had a genuine interest in the history and nature of communism you would read the primary sources: you would read what actual Russians wrote and thought. I suggest actually reading Solzhenitsyn, Sakharov, Zhoschenko, Bulgakov, Mayakovsky, Akhmatova, et al.

    Citing obscure British and American journalists and bloggers is completely inadequate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The entire purported premise of your thread is about Solzhenitsyn, Communism, Marxism, and USSR.

    You do not know Jack shit about the Soviet Union or about marxisn-communism.

    There is no point getting mad at me for knowing more than you.

    You and some obscure British journalist are not acceptable expert sources on communism and the USSR

    If you actually had a genuine interest in the history and nature of communism you would read the primary sources: you would read what actual Russians wrote and thought. I suggest actually reading Solzhenitsyn, Sakharov, Zhoschenko, Bulgakov, Mayakovsky, Akhmatova, et al.

    Citing obscure British and American journalists and bloggers is completely inadequate
    Fuck off sex pest, I have absolutely no interest in discussing anything with you. Now fuck off out of my thread, you ban me from yours so why should I have an arrogant cunt like you in mine. Anonymoose has you banged to rights, truly wicked impression!

    I am always intrigued how you admire me, my intelligence and my wit. You are obviously jealous of me. My theory is that you are uneducated and wish you had my expert knowledge about everything.

    Of course we all know I am far superior due to my advanced awareness of worldly affairs because I am so well read and google lots of stuff on the interwebs.

    From what I can tell, and of course my opinion is unrivaled, your jealousy of me stems from an inferiority complex whenever you engage me.
    I have no doubt you read all my posts here, lurking me, trying to find a kink in my armor of vast intellect, in a vain attempt to outdo me.
    Since I am adroit and skilled on every subject, including psychology , I recommend counseling from a mental health professional.
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...20#post3503620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Fuck off sex pest, I have absolutely no interest in discussing anything with you. Now fuck off out of my thread, you ban me from yours so why should I have an arrogant cunt like you in mine. Anonymoose has you banged to rights, truly wicked impression!
    You are utterly confused in your own thread.

    You are attempting to conflate Soviet communism, Marxism, and socialism.

    Which means you do not have a substantive and informed knowlege about any of it.

    You are getting irate at me, and having death fantasies about me just because I know more about this topic than you.

    Soviet communists were totalitarians who committed mass murder and terror on a periodic basis.

    Karl Marx never supported or advocated totalitarianism or despotism.

    The Russian democratic socialists were enemies of the Bolsheviks, and were among the first to take up arms and resist them.

    In your simple minded and uniformed way you are treating them as if they are all the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are utterly confused in your own thread.

    You are attempting to conflate Soviet communism, Marxism, and socialism.

    Which means you do not have a substantive and informed knowlege about any of it.

    You are getting irate at me, and having death fantasies about me just because I know more about this topic than you.

    Soviet communists were totalitarians who committed mass murder and terror on a periodic basis.

    Karl Marx never supported or advocated totalitarianism or despotism.

    The Russian democratic socialists were enemies of the Bolsheviks, and were among the first to take up arms and resist them.

    In your simple minded and uniformed way you are treating them as if they are all the same
    I have wish to talk to you at all, now kindly fuck off! You will be banned from all future threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I have wish to talk to you at all, now kindly fuck off! You will be banned from all future threads.
    You shouldn't start threads if you are ignorant about the topic

    You attempted to lecture the board when you actually didn't know anything about Solzhenitsyn, and you obviously have no substantive knowlege about the distinctions between marxism, socialism, and totalitarian communism.

    Getting angry at me for pointing out you ignorance speaks to your lack of self control.

    In the future you should stick to topics you actually know something about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You shouldn't start threads if you are ignorant about the topic

    You attempted to lecture the board when you actually didn't know anything about Solzhenitsyn, and you obviously have no substantive knowlege about the distinctions between marxism, socialism, and totalitarian communism.

    Getting angry at me for pointing out you ignorance speaks to your lack of self control.

    In the future you should stick to topics you actually know something about
    Go cry to the Pussy Posse, cunt!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Go cry to the Pussy Posse, cunt!!
    Now there is a topic you are an expert in: lying.

    You will be hard pressed to find any examples of me whining, crying, complaining. To anyone.

    The fair minded and reasonable person who observed my overall body of posts would conclude I have self control and discipline by message board standards.

    If you ever want to actually learn about the nature and history of communism, give me a holler. I have read quite a few Russian dissidents, writers, satirists, and poets of the Soviet era.

    You really aren't going to learn anything from obscure British bloggers

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Thanks, but no thanks. Communism is practically non-existent in the West, so no need to worry about these things.
    I'm much more concerned with Fascism, since that actually has made a comeback in the West.
    Listen I know you're only a Millennial and haven't actually been anywhere. I travelled extensively around Eastern Europe in the early 90s on business and saw the effects of Communism first hand. I also lived through Socialism in England in the 70s. I even went to Russia a couple of times, and Romania one year after Nicolae Ceaușescu was toppled. I have also been to Albania just after Hoxha was deposed and to Laos and Vietnam several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Holy shit, you're an ocean going fuckwit, pay a fucking attention. Rod Liddle is talking about the likes of Sanders and Corbyn and their purile attempts to resurrect the past. Oh, and by the way, I've been to Russia twice on business in the 90s so do shut the fuck up, you ponsified preening prick.
    He-he, "ponsified preening prick". Now THAT'S funny.

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