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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    You lie

    I reject your faulty premise
    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archi...ent/chap7.html

    The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    who is expected to refuse loans to poor credit risks?
    What is this 'risk' you speak of? There was no risk. It was bizzaro world on Wall St.

    Who the hell pushes loans at 125% of appraised value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    What is this 'risk' you speak of? There was no risk. It was bizzaro world on Wall St.

    Who the hell pushes loans at 125% of appraised value?
    aren't they sub prime because they're high risk?

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    its so funny when people with no argument start forgetting what words mean.

    "hmmm I think i'll clutch pearls over what high risk means."

    they were risky, as it turns out, genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    aren't they sub prime because they're high risk?
    Sub prime. Below prime rate due to a higher risk based on credit rating.

    You're talking about sound lending practices. Not the lending practices that caused the crash. People with A+ credit were being fed sub prime rates. Low introductory rates on a variable rate loan. They were urged to take advantage of the interest only payment for 5 years, using the 'extra' money to invest in an inflated market.

    The theory was to refinance the note in 5 years with plenty of money to put down.

    Again...why would a bank care about the 'risk', if they didn't own the note for more than 5 minutes? Historically, banks wouldn't loan more than 75% of appraised value.

    During the boom, they were lending 125% of an inflated appraised value
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    LOL!

    So you say you're not changing the quote
    ????.....why are you saying I'm saying I didn't change your quote........

    If it was so desperate and pathetic, you wouldn't need to change it because it would speak for itself.
    your original is still there speaking in its desperate and pathetic originality......I changed it to reflect the truth instead.....
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    Yeah I know what he did

    But like I have said earlier it was the goal of many. If you deny that you lie.

    Either you bitch about redlining or you bitch about predatory lending. You fuckers are never happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Sub prime. Below prime rate due to a higher risk based on credit rating.

    You're talking about sound lending practices. Not the lending practices that caused the crash. People with A+ credit were being fed sub prime rates. Low introductory rates on a variable rate loan. They were urged to take advantage of the interest only payment for 5 years, using the 'extra' money to invest in an inflated market.

    The theory was to refinance the note in 5 years with plenty of money to put down.

    Again...why would a bank care about the 'risk', if they didn't own the note for more than 5 minutes? Historically, banks wouldn't loan more than 75% of appraised value.

    During the boom, they were lending 125% of an inflated appraised value
    yeah. high risk. like I said.

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    banks don't care, you're right. and their negligence, solipsism and outright intentional infection of markets with known bad assets is quite evil. humanity sees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Do you think that spamming links is somehow a winning strategy when you can't even answer the simple question as to where anything was signed into law that forced Bush's regulators to cease enforcement of lending standards for subprimes 3 years after Clinton left office?
    Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    your original is still there speaking in its desperate and pathetic originality......I changed it to reflect the truth instead.....
    So you did change it. OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans
    Wrong.

    As the Federal Reserve Board of Governors says:

    "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "
    https://www.federalreserve.gov/image...3_analysis.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Yeah I know what he did
    But like I have said earlier it was the goal of many. If you deny that you lie.
    Either you bitch about redlining or you bitch about predatory lending. You fuckers are never happy
    The goal of many was to responsibly increase home ownership; it was Bush's goal to inflate a subprime bubble in 2004 to make the economy look like it was growing because of the tax cuts when it was really growing because of debt.

    And Bush tied his tax cuts to that policy while campaigning in 2004; so tax cuts helped cause the housing bubble:

    Bush Ties Policy to Record Home Ownership
    March 26th, 2004
    Touting his tax cuts as the economy's savior — and pointing to the strong housing market as proof — Bush said "more people own their own home now than ever." More than 50 percent of minorities owned their own homes in the last three months of 2003 for the first time ever, the president said.
    https://www.foxnews.com/story/bush-t...home-ownership
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Let's not forget to include AIG here.
    Of course!

    AIG played a massive part in this by falsely rating securities, but they wouldn't have done that had those securities not been backed initially by these subprimes with no lending standards.

    The inciting incident was that backing off of enforcement of lending standards for subprimes. That's where the crisis has its root. It was all about those underlying mortgages that were backing the shady securities.

    Conservatives deliberately inflated a housing bubble to make the economy look like it was growing because of the tax cuts in time for the 2004 election, when it was really growing because of debt and had been since 2001.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    So you did change it. OK.
    I'm surprised you weren't certain......
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