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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Sadly, ... they are the Serfs.
    It's good enough for them...obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It's good enough for them...obviously.
    Yes. They deserve their Station in Life. There's a reason Trump said he 'liked the stupid people'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Pretty sure the Trumptonians are looking for a King.
    Pretty sure you gimme, gimme, gimme freeloaders are looking for a sugar daddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And that's just a fact.

    This is what the Progressive movement is trying to revive. There are many young Progressives coming into Congress and many getting ready to primary moderates and corporate owned Dems. They are the ONLY representatives who will bring back the now totally defunct American Dream.
    No taxation without representation.

    That was the battle cry.

    And now, we have Republicans who want to count only citizens or possibly only voters in the redistricting process.

    That would amount to taxation without representation.

    The Constitution says 'all real persons' need to be counted.

    First they tried to screw with the Census, adding the citizenship question.

    That was shot down by the SCOTUS.

    Now DT ordered all federal agencies to report all information on who is and is not a citizen to the Commerce Department (which controls the Census.)

    This information will be made available to all the red states who want to go against the Constitution and fail to consider who resides in each district.

    Non-citizens and children may not be considered in States like Texas, where the vast majority of children are non-white.

    If Republicans did fair districting in Texas they would lose their slim majority. And they can't have that. Fairness is no longer part of Republican thinking.

    And the conservative states are talking to each other, getting ideas from one another on how to handle this.

    Gerrymandering is here to stay, and Republicans will be using it to stack the deck in their favor.

    'Taxation without Representation' should be part of their platform.

    They have become anti-American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    It was the merchant class that led the fight to defeat monarchy and give us freedom from massive gov't rule. It is the socialists that want to take that freedom away.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    No taxation without representation.

    That was the battle cry.

    And now, we have Republicans who want to count only citizens or possibly only voters in the redistricting process.

    That would amount to taxation without representation.

    The Constitution says 'all real persons' need to be counted.

    First they tried to screw with the Census, adding the citizenship question.

    That was shot down by the SCOTUS.

    Now DT ordered all federal agencies to report all information on who is and is not a citizen to the Commerce Department (which controls the Census.)

    This information will be made available to all the red states who want to go against the Constitution and fail to consider who resides in each district.

    Non-citizens and children may not be considered in States like Texas, where the vast majority of children are non-white.

    And the conservative states are talking to each other, getting ideas from one another on how to handle this.

    Gerrymandering is here to stay, and Republicans will be using it to stack the deck in their favor.

    'Taxation without Representation' should be part of their platform.

    They have become anti-American.
    ^A new level of stupid. Just when you think they can't bloviate any dumber.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And that's just a fact.
    Not a fact. An argument. Learn what 'fact' means. It does not mean 'proof' or 'Universal Truth'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    This is what the Progressive movement is trying to revive.
    WRONG. Socialism is not the American dream. Fascism is not the American dream.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    There are many young Progressives coming into Congress and many getting ready to primary moderates and corporate owned Dems. They are the ONLY representatives who will bring back the now totally defunct American Dream.
    WRONG. Neither socialism nor fascism are the American dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    No taxation without representation.

    That was the battle cry.
    Up to and during the Revolutionary war.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    And now, we have Republicans who want to count only citizens or possibly only voters in the redistricting process.
    Works for me. That's in the constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    That would amount to taxation without representation.
    Nope. Citizens and voters are the ones that pay taxes.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The Constitution says 'all real persons' need to be counted.
    No, it doesn't. Try reading it sometime.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    First they tried to screw with the Census, adding the citizenship question.
    It's always been there, except the 2010 census.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    That was shot down by the SCOTUS.
    SCOTUS does not have authority to change the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Now DT ordered all federal agencies to report all information on who is and is not a citizen to the Commerce Department (which controls the Census.)
    Nothing illegal about that!
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    This information will be made available to all the red states who want to go against the Constitution and fail to consider who resides in each district.
    What 'red' State has gone against the Constitution. Specify detail. The SOTC, on the other hand, has effectively left the republic. I no longer consider it a State. Sacramento no longer recognizes the U.S. Constitution or the Constitution of the State of California.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Non-citizens and children may not be considered in States like Texas, where the vast majority of children are non-white.
    So? They don't vote or pay taxes.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If Republicans did fair districting in Texas they would lose their slim majority.
    Put away your holy entrails. They do not predict the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    And they can't have that. Fairness is no longer part of Republican thinking.
    Every citizen gets to vote. That's how the census was counted for quite some time. The 2010 census was an anomaly.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    And the conservative states are talking to each other, getting ideas from one another on how to handle this.
    So, State governors are not allowed to talk to each other now? What happened to the 1st amendment?
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Gerrymandering is here to stay, and Republicans will be using it to stack the deck in their favor.
    I don't think you know what that word means.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    'Taxation without Representation' should be part of their platform.
    Citizens vote. They pay the taxes. Where is the taxation without representation?
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    They have become anti-American.
    Inversion fallacy. That would be YOU.

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