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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yes, it is, but not all voters have driver’s licenses.
    In my State, when voter ID laws were passed, the State identified over 100K that didn't have an ID meeting the requirements of the new law. They offered those folks a ride and FREE ID. 25 accepted. Rather than those opposing such laws chastising those that refused to get something they didn't have and made excuses they couldn't get, the opposition still claimed disenfranchisement.

    BTW, those acceptable ID weren't drivers licenses but they served the same purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Men and women have died for free and honest elections.

    If some sloth is too lazy to get a photo ID, free in many states, then...

    You don’t want photo ID for one reason and one reason only, you want illegals to vote.

    Open borders and Democrat sanctuary cities are the proof,
    They want illegals to vote, therefore, opposing voter ID but they want law abiding citizens to register all their guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Only idiots ignore the threat.
    Yes, the threat of illegals (non-citizens) voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    They want illegals to vote, therefore, opposing voter ID but they want law abiding citizens to register all their guns.
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Only idiots ignore the threat.
    You oppose voter ID laws but have admitted you believe Russian interference occurs at the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Yes, the threat of illegals (non-citizens) voting.
    She claimed, after stating she opposed voter ID laws, that Russians do interfere at the polls.

    "There are other ways Russia and others are interfering with the election process besides at the polls' - post #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In my State, when voter ID laws were passed, the State identified over 100K that didn't have an ID meeting the requirements of the new law. They offered those folks a ride and FREE ID. 25 accepted. Rather than those opposing such laws chastising those that refused to get something they didn't have and made excuses they couldn't get, the opposition still claimed disenfranchisement.

    BTW, those acceptable ID weren't drivers licenses but they served the same purpose.
    Amendment 14 & 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Amendment 14 & 15
    The FREE ride and ID are offsetting any claims using those amendments.

    Why is it blacks can't do what whites have no problem doing when it comes to ID? The claims you idiots make center around racial discrimination against blacks but never say anything about whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You oppose voter ID laws but have admitted you believe Russian interference occurs at the polls.
    Sigh, I did not say Russian interference occurs at the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Amendment 14 & 15
    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

    Note the requirement before the “and.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Sigh, I did not say Russian interference occurs at the polls.
    "There are other ways Russia and others are interfering with the election process besides at the polls"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    The FREE ride and ID are offsetting any claims using those amendments.

    Why is it blacks can't do what whites have no problem doing when it comes to ID? The claims you idiots make center around racial discrimination against blacks but never say anything about whites.
    Whites also lack state issued ID, it’s not just a black issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    "There are other ways Russia and others are interfering with the election process besides at the polls"
    Responding to the statement that Russia interfered at polls. I do not think they I referred with the actual vote to clarify my position, but they did hack election systems in several states.

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    It’s an issue of non-eligible voters, including illegals (non-citizens), voting.

    Open borders and sanctuary cities prove that the radical Democrat Socialists don’t give a damn about illegal voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Whites also lack state issued ID, it’s not just a black issue.
    I guess that's why when opposition to voter ID is expressed, the arguments by the opposition center around minorities being disenfranchised by such laws.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ession/565355/ - mentions blacks and Latinos

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...e-poor/254572/ - mentions Hispanics, other minorities, and the poor

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...002/polq.12868 - no mention of whites

    https://www.npr.org/2018/10/23/65978...ournalist-says - mentions only minorities, not whites

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