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    Russia and Turkey are headed towards a Cold War nightmare scenario after fighting between the two major powers in Syria left two Turkish soldiers dead.


    Syrian ruler Bashar al-Assad is driving his forces into Idlib, the last rebel-held stronghold in Syria, with Russian support. Turkey faces a humanitarian crisis on its borders as up to two million Syrians fleeing Assad’s rule are left with nowhere else to go, and Turkish forces have entered Idlib to stop the offensive. Now, the United States is mulling over its response to the escalating tensions.

    The fresh concerns about America’s role in the region come on the heels of an airstrike by either Russian or pro-Assad forces, which killed two Turkish soldiers during a rebel counter-offensive east of Idlib on Thursday. In response, the Turkish military has reportedly asked the United States to deploy anti-aircraft missiles and launch air patrols in Turkey in order to deter Russia.

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    two former State Department officials called for the United States to back Turkey against Russia at a Thursday press conference at the U.S. Capitol.

    They called for “urgent action to provide political and material support to Turkish forces today who are currently serving as a last line of defense, urgent action for NATO to signal to Russia that what is happening on its border is unacceptable, and we’ll defend an ally.”

    U.S. forces are already deployed to northeastern Syria alongside Kurdish-led counterterrorism forces. They reportedly killed a local man during a clash with a pro-Assad militia on February 12, and nearly ran a Russian military vehicle off the road in a confrontation on Wednesday.

    “The Coalition’s goal is to de-escalate any unplanned encounters with other forces operating in northeastern Syria,” Caggins told the Military Times after Wednesday’s incident.
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    Two Turkish soldiers were killed Thursday in an airstrike in northwestern Syria, Turkey said, after an attack by Ankara-backed opposition forces that targeted Syrian government troops. The deaths came after the Turkish president threatened to expand his nation's involvement in Syria if another one of his troops were hurt.

    At least 15 Turkish soldiers have been killed in Syria this month amid a crushing offensive by Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces aimed at recapturing remaining opposition-held areas in the region.

    Intent on halting the advance, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had vowed Feb. 12 to take military action “everywhere in Syria” if another Turkish soldier was killed or wounded.

    The multiple front offensive has triggered the biggest single wave of fleeing civilians in Syria's nine-year war, displacing nearly 1 million people who have rushed toward the Turkish border and are sheltering in tents or sleeping rough in harsh winter weather.

    It has also risked completely shattering a fragile cooperation between Ankara and Moscow, which back opposing sides of the Syria war. Ankara has sent thousands of soldiers to northwestern Syria to try to stem the Syrian government advance on the province near the Turkish border, leading to the repeated flare-ups.

    Thursday's exchange marked a serious escalation that risks growing into a full-blown conflict between Turkey and Syria.
    Erdogan has also called on Assad's forces to retreat from Idlib or face an “imminent” Turkish attack.

    Turkey and Russia have closely coordinated their moves in recent years in Idlib province. Turkey maintains observation posts in northern Syria that were set up to monitor a 2018 cease-fire agreement with Russia. The truce collapsed in late 2019, leading to the current Syrian offensive, backed by Russia.

    Russian officials have said they hold Turkey responsible for the collapse of the cease-fire deal, saying Ankara had not held up its end to rein in militants who continued attacking Syrian and Russian targets.

    Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar on Thursday rejected the Russian assertion, saying Ankara was making progress against radical groups in Idlib when the Syrian government launched its offensive.

    Ankara sent in thousands of additional troops and armored vehicles in recent weeks, vowing to halt the government's advance.

    “We are delivering our final warnings. We have not reached the desired results as yet,” Erdogan said Wednesday. “The operation in Idlib is a matter of time. We could enter (Idlib) suddenly one night.”

    Akar said Turkey's military has prepared "plans A, B and C" for a possible offensive in Idlib.

    So far, talks between Turkish and Russian officials have failed to reach agreements that would ease tensions there.
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/202...-ml-syria.html

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    Yeah, let’s start WWIII over Syria lol.

    Insanity. I don’t see us getting heavily involved in it though Turkey being part of NATO complicates matters.
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    Will Turkey Drag America Into a ‘World War III Scenario’ With Russia?
    Izrael, anatta, Izrael. The US and its satellites have been pumping arms, propaganda and money for mercenaries into Syria for Izrael's security. All the ramifications stem from that, the war, the refugees- all down to your buddies the neoZionists - and their crazy Evangelical support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Russia and Turkey are headed towards a Cold War nightmare scenario after fighting between the two major powers in Syria left two Turkish soldiers dead.


    Syrian ruler Bashar al-Assad is driving his forces into Idlib, the last rebel-held stronghold in Syria, with Russian support. Turkey faces a humanitarian crisis on its borders as up to two million Syrians fleeing Assad’s rule are left with nowhere else to go, and Turkish forces have entered Idlib to stop the offensive. Now, the United States is mulling over its response to the escalating tensions.

    The fresh concerns about America’s role in the region come on the heels of an airstrike by either Russian or pro-Assad forces, which killed two Turkish soldiers during a rebel counter-offensive east of Idlib on Thursday. In response, the Turkish military has reportedly asked the United States to deploy anti-aircraft missiles and launch air patrols in Turkey in order to deter Russia.



    Fuck those assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Russia and Turkey are headed towards a Cold War nightmare scenario after fighting between the two major powers in Syria left two Turkish soldiers dead.


    Syrian ruler Bashar al-Assad is driving his forces into Idlib, the last rebel-held stronghold in Syria, with Russian support. Turkey faces a humanitarian crisis on its borders as up to two million Syrians fleeing Assad’s rule are left with nowhere else to go, and Turkish forces have entered Idlib to stop the offensive. Now, the United States is mulling over its response to the escalating tensions.

    The fresh concerns about America’s role in the region come on the heels of an airstrike by either Russian or pro-Assad forces, which killed two Turkish soldiers during a rebel counter-offensive east of Idlib on Thursday. In response, the Turkish military has reportedly asked the United States to deploy anti-aircraft missiles and launch air patrols in Turkey in order to deter Russia.
    Didn't Turkey already switch to s400 Russian anti aircraft missiles?

    I don't see Trump getting us heavily involved. However, Pelosi may have the votes to declare war!!!
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    Who will Dimwit Donny suck off?
    1. Erdogan.
    2. Putin.

    Tough call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Didn't Turkey already switch to s400 Russian anti aircraft missiles?

    I don't see Trump getting us heavily involved. However, Pelosi may have the votes to declare war!!!
    "Ergodan sent in the Turkish army, with tanks, artillery and armored vehicles, long-range rockets in tow. But they have no protection from Russian air power. A nation with a long militaristic history like Turkey can endure battlefield martyrs, inflows of refugees, curbs on freedoms and strongman posturing in its leader, up to a point. What it won't tolerate is defeat, especially defeat that a supine media can't hide from the populace. Plus, the collapse of Ankara-backed Sunni rebels in Syria will free the Kurds to unite geographically along Turkey's southern border thereby furnish support to fellow Kurds inside Turkey. An even bigger blow. So Erdogan abuts a Waterloo moment. He is asking Nato desperately for Patriot air cover from Russian airstrikes against Turkish soldiers. Having spurned Nato and the West, having defiantly purchased Russian missile batteries, Erdogan has run out of bluffing room on both sides."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/melikka.../#64795123e0b8


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Didn't Turkey already switch to s400 Russian anti aircraft missiles?

    I don't see Trump getting us heavily involved. However, Pelosi may have the votes to declare war!!!
    Trump might easily and willingly start a war over there...if he thinks it would help his chances for re-election or if he thought he might make a few bucks over it.

    I doubt Speaker Pelosi would even consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Having spurned Nato and the West, having defiantly purchased Russian missile batteries, Erdogan has run out of bluffing room on both sides."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/melikka.../#64795123e0b8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
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    TinyDog: "Didn't Turkey already switch to s400 Russian anti aircraft missiles?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Trump might easily and willingly start a war over there...if he thinks it would help his chances for re-election or if he thought he might make a few bucks over it.

    I doubt Speaker Pelosi would even consider it.
    Why wouldn't Pelosi declare war just to try and make Trump look bad, ... like her impeachment stunt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    TinyDog: "Didn't Turkey already switch to s400 Russian anti aircraft missiles?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Why wouldn't Pelosi declare war just to try and make Trump look bad, ... like her impeachment stunt?
    Because she has a functioning brain and a sense of decency...unlike Trump or many of his supporters.

    Thanks for asking.
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