HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? The left says strict gun laws work!!

[Truth Detector]

German gunman calling for genocide kills 9 people in multiple attacks

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-city-of-hanau

Discuss.

[Truth Detector]

Summary

The German system of gun control is among the most stringent in Europe. It restricts the acquisition, possession, and carrying of firearms to those with a creditable need for a weapon. It bans fully automatic weapons and severely restricts the acquisition of other types of weapons. Compulsory liability insurance is required for anyone who is licensed to carry firearms.

In recent years, German gun-control law underwent several reforms that made it even more stringent. A new Weapons Act became effective in 2003 after a school shooting in the city of Erfurt in which a student killed sixteen persons. The new Act restricted the use of large caliber weapons by young people and strengthened requirements for the safe storage of firearms.

Another reform was enacted in 2009 in response to the massacre at Winnenden, in which an eighteen-year-old killed fifteen people in the course of a school shooting. This latest reform led to the creation of a federal gun register and to intense governmental monitoring of gun owners’ compliance with requirements for the safe storage of firearms. Pursuant to the reformed legislation, the authorities may at any time request access to the premises of any registered gun owner to monitor whether proper safe-storage procedures are being observed.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearm...ol/germany.php

[Truth Detector]

The left's response:

[AProudLefty]

German gunman calling for genocide kills 9 people in multiple attacks

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-city-of-hanau

Discuss.

Do you live in Germany?

[Truth Detector]

Do you live in Germany?

I was born and raised half my life there; do you have a point?

[Nordberg]

Germany barely has shootings due to their strict gun laws. We have mass shootings every week and thousands of Americans killed by guns every year. Can you figure out which is better?
perhaps this is proof their rules should be stricter. That is exactly what government spokespeople said.

[AProudLefty]

I was born and raised half my life there; do you have a point?

The point is we don't live in Germany. So I have no idea who you are talking to.

[Saudade]

Germany barely has shootings due to their strict gun laws. We have mass shootings every week and thousands of Americans killed by guns every year. Can you figure out which is better?
perhaps this is proof their rules should be stricter. That is exactly what government spokespeople said.

We have a lot of drug related violence and deaths. Should we make drug laws stricter, or should we aim for decriminalization?

[AProudLefty]

We have a lot of drug related violence and deaths. Should we make drug laws stricter, or should we aim for decriminalization?

End the War on Drugs.

[Saudade]

End the War on Drugs.

Why have a war on guns then?

I've noticed that the left and the right seem to be very selective in how they decide what requires more statism or what requires less.

It's more consistent to either push for more state involvement across the board, or to recognize that people will do drugs regardless of the laws and that shootings will happen regardless of laws as well.

[archives]

Do you live in Germany?

Exactly, he can't come up with a reasonable gun defense for the US so he has to use Germany, kinda humorous, and nine people pales in comparison to the 59 Stephen Paddock killed plus over 400 he wounded in one afternoon

[Saudade]

Exactly, he can't come up with a reasonable gun defense for the US so he has to use Germany, kinda humorous, and nine people pales in comparison to the 59 Stephen Paddock killed plus over 400 he wounded in one afternoon

If that's the argument, then people need to stop trying to use other countries as justification for implementing socialized medicine here.

[AProudLefty]

Why have a war on guns then?

I've noticed that the left and the right seem to be very selective in how they decide what requires more statism or what requires less.

It's more consistent to either push for more state involvement across the board, or to recognize that people will do drugs regardless of the laws and that shootings will happen regardless of laws as well.

Well if we end the War on Drugs, the number of crimes will reduce. It does us no good to keep restricting our 2nd Amendment right.

[AProudLefty]

If that's the argument, then people need to stop trying to use other countries as justification for implementing socialized medicine here.

Apples and oranges.

[Saudade]

Well if we end the War on Drugs, the number of crimes will reduce. It does us no good to keep restricting our 2nd Amendment right.

I can mostly agree with that. I'm not in favor of legalizing every drug, but I do support decriminalizing everything. Judging by your response, I'm assuming you're not in favor of more gun control, right?