And now for the FACTS on Trump's Wall:

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"TRUMP: “You do know who’s paying for the wall, don’t you? Redemption from illegal aliens that are coming. The redemption money is paying for the wall.” — New Hampshire rally on Feb. 10, 2020"

"THE FACTS: To date, the money is coming from the U.S. treasury, meaning today’s taxpayers and the future ones who will inherit the federal debt. To the extent any people who came into the U.S. illegally are kicking in for the wall, it’s because they’re working and paying taxes like other workers."

“Redemption” payments don’t exist; Trump apparently meant to cite remittances. That refers to money that immigrants in the U.S. send to their countries of origin, often to family members. Trump has at various times talked about taxing or blocking such money, but that has not been done."

"Mexico flatly refused at the outset to pay for the wall. That has given rise to creative formulations by the president about how Mexico in some way is contributing. For example, he has projected that his updated trade agreement with Mexico and Canada will stimulate enough extra growth over the years to cover the cost. Even if that happens, which analysts widely doubt, the wall will have cost the U.S. money that it could have used for something else. It’s not a payment from Mexico."

"Trump freed up $3.6 billion for the wall last year by diverting money from military construction projects as well as $2.5 billion from approved counter-drug spending."

https://apnews.com/da2b132d335daf00e292aa6c8b873940

In other words, Mexico isn't, nor will Mexico ever, pay for Trump's Wall

It is tough to determine which is the biggest flat out lie Trump has echoed, there are so many, thousands documented, but if I had to pick one it is "Mexico paying for the Wall," or, "I won't play Golf when I am elected"

[Jack]

You're missing the Big Picture.
The American Working Class (those that work with their hands) feel threatened by low wage immigrant Labor. First, by keeping Wages low, and second by taking Jobs.
I'll try to keep this crystal clear and blunt ... American Working Class votes. They vote their pocketbook.
Traditionally, Democrats have represented the Working Class. Somehow, that has been reversed. It now appears Republicans are 'protecting' the Working Class from 'Unfair Labor'.

You don't have to be a fucking rocket scientist to see the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot on this.

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You're missing the Big Picture.
The American Working Class (those that work with their hands) feel threatened by low wage immigrant Labor. First, by keeping Wages low, and second by taking Jobs.
I'll try to keep this crystal clear and blunt ... American Working Class votes. They vote their pocketbook.
Traditionally, Democrats have represented the Working Class. Somehow, that has been reversed. It now appears Republicans are 'protecting' the Working Class from 'Unfair Labor'.

You don't have to be a fucking rocket scientist to see the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot on this.

Not that it is related to the topic, but that is not accurate, it hasn't been reversed, the GOP hasn't won over the Rust States blue collar vote, it currently leans Independent and Democratic, issues as health care supersede immigration no matter how hard Trump attempts to demagogue the later

[anatta]

build da wall

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build da wall

No problem, just don't build it on Americans' dime, especially when the man who wants it told Americans that Mexico was picking up the tab and now he is only stealing allocated money from the military to say he fulfilled a campaign lie

[anatta]

No problem, just don't build it on Americans' dime, especially when the man who wants it told Americans that Mexico was picking up the tab and now he is only stealing allocated money from the military to say he fulfilled a campaign lie

It's a national security issue.
It's the single most important 'military construction' project. just do it

[FastLane]

No problem, just don't build it on Americans' dime, especially when the man who wants it told Americans that Mexico was picking up the tab and now he is only stealing allocated money from the military to say he fulfilled a campaign lie

BUILD DA WALL!! I don't care if we pay for it. Its our wall anyway its meant to protect us. Its no different than paying for an aircraft carrier to defend our borders. Where we have built it it has reduced illegal border crossings.

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It's a national security issue.
It's the single most important 'military construction' project. just do it

Really, if that was the case, "the single most important 'military construction' project" why didn't the military ask for funding to construct it? or why didn't Congress approve it?

Border security is an issue, not Trump's Wall, the two aren't the same, in fact, just like last year, even ass kissers in Trump's own party don't approve (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...-grab-for-wall)

[Grokmaster]

ILLEGAL CROSSINGS AT A SEVENTEEN YEAR LOW. COMPLETELY SCREWING UP THE DNC ILLEGAL VOTER DRIVE, BECAUsE MEXICO IS THE WALL, THANKS TO BRILLIANT TRUMP BORDER REGS., that are keeping the ILLEGAL, FRAUDOCRAT VOTERS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

Trump Has Built Nearly 100 Miles of Border Wall by End of 2019, With 350 Miles to Go in 2020

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...0-goal-1479821



IOW...the 450 miles he sought from the getgo.



CHOKE ON IT.

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BUILD DA WALL!! I don't care if we pay for it. Its our wall anyway its meant to protect us. Its no different than paying for an aircraft carrier to defend our boarders. Where we have built it it has reduced illegal border crossings.

Oh, so you want to build Trump's Wall even though the money for Trump's Wall is coming from funding the Pentagon felt was needed for other priorities, and Congress concurred with the military approving funding for those priorities?

[anatta]

Really, if that was the case, "the single most important 'military construction' project" why didn't the military ask for funding to construct it? or why didn't Congress approve it?

Border security is an issue, not Trump's Wall, the two aren't the same, in fact, just like last year, even ass kissers in Trump's own party don't approve (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...-grab-for-wall)

Not from lack of Trump's trying -recall the government shutdown over wall funding by Pelosi?

Screw those parochial Congressional interests ,
All the Committees don't want money to come from their pet project. The wall though is a national issue

If I thought the next POTUS would be using the policies (like REMAIN) designed by Trump
in cooperation with Mexico's Obrador stopping the caravans from coming here -i'd say fine

But we know what one POTUS does doesn't bind the next, so it has to get done by Trump, by any means possible

[Grokmaster]

Oh, so you want to build Trump's Wall even though the money for Trump's Wall is coming from funding the Pentagon felt was needed for other priorities, and Congress concurred with the military approving funding for those priorities?

HE IS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. COURTS AGREED HE COULD DO IT.

HE IS ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE ILLEGAL DNC VOTER INVASION.


ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES...

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ILLEGAL CROSSINGS AT A SEVENTEEN YEAR LOW. COMPLETELY SCREWING UP THE DNC ILLEGAL VOTER DRIVE, BECAUsE MEXICO IS THE WALL, THANKS TO BRILLIANT TRUMP BORDER REGS., that are keeping the ILLEGAL, FRAUDOCRAT VOTERS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

Trump Has Built Nearly 100 Miles of Border Wall by End of 2019, With 350 Miles to Go in 2020

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...0-goal-1479821



IOW...the 450 miles he sought from the getgo.


CHOKE ON IT.[/B]

[B]GET REAL, TRUMP IS REPAIRING EXISTING WALL AND CALLING IT HIS OWN, AND EVEN WHAT HE HAS DONE IS PROVEN TO BE FEEBLE

[Grokmaster]

[B]GET REAL, TRUMP IS REPAIRING EXISTING WALL AND CALLING IT HIS OWN, AND EVEN WHAT HE HAS DONE IS PROVEN TO BE FEEBLE

SEVENTEEN YEAR LOW IN ILLEGAL CROSSINGS, DESPITE BOOMING US ECONOMY. THEY ARE STUCK IN MEXICO, AS PRES.TRUMP BITCH SLAPS THE ILLEGAL-O-CRATS...AGAIN.

[FastLane]

Oh, so you want to build Trump's Wall even though the money for Trump's Wall is coming from funding the Pentagon felt was needed for other priorities, and Congress concurred with the military approving funding for those priorities?

Trump is over the Military and Trump is correct that we need a wall to HELP protect our southern border. Here is a SHOCK military funding that actually protect our own border. Money well spent. Think about how much money we have wasted on Iraq. I'd rather spend it here employing American workers at least.