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    Default The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism

    Next time you hear a JPP lib tout the Scandinavian model of socialism, point out the truth here.

    The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism

    The Scandinavians embrace a brand of free-market capitalism that exists in conjunction with a large welfare state, known as the “Nordic Model,” which includes many policies that democratic socialists would likely abhor.

    For example, democratic socialists are generally opponents of global capitalism and free trade, but the Scandinavian countries have fully embraced these things. The Economist magazine describes the Scandinavian countries as “stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies.” Perhaps this is why Denmark, Norway, and Sweden rank among the most globalized countries in the entire world. These countries all also rank in the top 10 easiest countries to do business in.

    How do supporters of Bernie Sanders feel about the minimum wage? You will find no such government-imposed floors on labor in Sweden, Norway, or Denmark. Instead, minimum wages are decided by collective-bargaining agreements between unions and employers; they typically vary on an occupational or industrial basis. Union-imposed wages lock out the least skilled and do their own damage to an economy, but such a decentralized system is still arguably a much better way of doing things than having the central government set a one-size-fits-all wage policy that covers every occupation nationwide.

    In a move that would be considered radically pro-capitalist by young Americans who #FeelTheBern, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman his 1955 essay, “The Role of Government in Education.”
    https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of...ian-socialism/

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    Carefull what you ask for huh ?
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    The rightwing spent a decade calling Barack Obama a socialist.

    And who exactly were conservatives talking about when they whined for decades about the socialist western European nations?

    If Obama is a socialist, then Norway is a veritable Marxist-Leninist state

    By the standard metrics used, Norway is more socialist than Venezuela or Communist China.
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...73#post3417773

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    OP failure. We aren't naive enough to let the conservative fickle flop routine pass.

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    The argument distills down to the American model that creates an extremely wealthy class and a permanent poor class the supports them, or a country that provides healthcare and safety nets for the people. If you agree that tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations makes America a better country,then you are a Trumpian Repub. This election, at least in debate,is about whether we need another 4 years of moving the profits created by workers to the top. We need to slash the programs that defend the poor and middle class. We need to end environmental protections. We need to take away the public lands and allow corporations to exploit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Next time you hear a JPP lib tout the Scandinavian model of socialism, point out the truth here.

    https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of...ian-socialism/
    #semantics

    What Scandinavia really has is called Social Democracy, not Socialism. And Social Democracy is what the American Left wants for America, they just incorrectly call it Democratic Socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    OP failure. We aren't naive enough to let the conservative fickle flop routine pass.
    It is Republicans themselves who have spent careers calling western Europe socialist >>
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...19#post2926319

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #semantics

    What Scandinavia really has is called Social Democracy, not Socialism. And Social Democracy is what the American Left wants for America, they just incorrectly call it Democratic Socialism.
    Apparently you never read the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Next time you hear a JPP lib tout the Scandinavian model of socialism, point out the truth here.

    https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of...ian-socialism/
    e-vince is over in another thread talking about how the post office is "socialism" lol.
    Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The rightwing spent a decade calling Barack Obama a socialist.

    And who exactly were conservatives talking about when they whined for decades about the socialist western European nations?

    If Obama is a socialist, then Norway is a veritable Marxist-Leninist state

    By the standard metrics used, Norway is more socialist than Venezuela or Communist China.
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...73#post3417773
    The successes in Norway aren't because of socialism.

    Obama is nothing more than an unqualified black you idiots elected based solely on skin color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #semantics

    What Scandinavia really has is called Social Democracy, not Socialism. And Social Democracy is what the American Left wants for America, they just incorrectly call it Democratic Socialism.
    Just how hard did you have to twist yourself into a pretzel to come up with that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Just how hard did you have to twist yourself into a pretzel to come up with that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    You had to twist yourself that hard, huh?

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    So we have dark soul approving the mixed social and economic system of Scandinavia.

    Darksoul must be a leftist
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