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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Why don't you just present YOUR EVIDENCE of Mr. Trump communicating with the DOJ to alter the Unjust sentence? This all on BARR.....the attorney general of the United States of American. Barr knows and comprehends the distinct difference betweem JUSTICE and INJUSTICE. Trump has given no orders to anyone in the DOJ....what you have is a citizen of the Untied States of America (Donald John Trump) exercising his fist amendment right of free speech in presenting "an opinion".

    What? A POTUS loses his constitutional rights when he assumes the office of Commander in Chief? Idiots. Go ahead.....command Barr to appear before the HOUSE......you will not enjoy the fallout when BARR points out the fact of Jury tampering and a Judges refusal to have the defense simply have the right to VOIR DIRE potential jurors. It appears the judge residing over the Stone case did not allow the defense to vet any of the deep state prosecutors HAND PICKED jurors. In fact the Jury Foreperson (of course a leftist female) is on record both before the trial and after.....being on several social media sites presenting her bias against Donald J. Trump.

    Go ahead.....and reveal all the information to the American Voters.

    Legally speaking. Its all "MOOT".....as soon as the FISA court report by the IG is declassified by BARR who was given cart blanche authority to declassify anything he wishes...FOR A REASON.....Both Flyn and Stone will be as free as a jail bird can get.
    If anyone presented evidence of any kind on Trump you would say it was fake, you are one of those murder on 5th Avenue lemmings, and to not believe Barr took his orders from Trump is to believe that Trump didn't use needed foreign aid as leverage to get the Ukrainians to announce some kind of investigation into Biden

    Barr is overstepping, now are prosecutors everywhere suppose to first check in with Barr to see if they should follow the established sentencing rules, or, just go ahead and follow the Justice Dept's guidelines and see if Barr wants to alter the rules after the fact? Actually, can't imagine now why the Justice Dept would have rules, it seems it should just be what billy Barr thinks at any given moment

    And sure the President can speak, but anyone with any kind of class knows that his views should come after the verdict is announced, no one in a position of authority is suppose to weigh in on an ongoing trial, but we all know that Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the Judicial system other than as a vehicle to sue someone who catch's him in the act

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    My guess, five to seven years, he'll serve three in some country club jail somewhere, but you got to keep in mind that this is the same Judge who Trump said sent Manford to maximum security, worse than Al Capone Trump said, maximum security in a minimum security jail, but I'm sure the lemmings bought it
    It don’t matter. Trump will pardon him

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    My guess, five to seven years, he'll serve three in some country club jail somewhere, but you got to keep in mind that this is the same Judge who Trump said sent Manford to maximum security, worse than Al Capone Trump said, maximum security in a minimum security jail, but I'm sure the lemmings bought it
    It's so hard to read your illiterate run-on sentences.

    So what crime did Stone commit to even get interrogated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    If anyone presented evidence of any kind on Trump you would say it was fake, you are one of those murder on 5th Avenue lemmings, and to not believe Barr took his orders from Trump is to believe that Trump didn't use needed foreign aid as leverage to get the Ukrainians to announce some kind of investigation into Biden

    Barr is overstepping, now are prosecutors everywhere suppose to first check in with Barr to see if they should follow the established sentencing rules, or, just go ahead and follow the Justice Dept's guidelines and see if Barr wants to alter the rules after the fact? Actually, can't imagine now why the Justice Dept would have rules, it seems it should just be what billy Barr thinks at any given moment

    And sure the President can speak, but anyone with any kind of class knows that his views should come after the verdict is announced, no one in a position of authority is suppose to weigh in on an ongoing trial, but we all know that Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the Judicial system other than as a vehicle to sue someone who catch's him in the act
    More what ifism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    If anyone presented evidence of any kind on Trump you would say it was fake
    so you decided to avoid wasting time you wouldn't present any?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    If anyone presented evidence of any kind on Trump you would say it was fake, you are one of those murder on 5th Avenue lemmings, and to not believe Barr took his orders from Trump is to believe that Trump didn't use needed foreign aid as leverage to get the Ukrainians to announce some kind of investigation into Biden

    Barr is overstepping, now are prosecutors everywhere suppose to first check in with Barr to see if they should follow the established sentencing rules, or, just go ahead and follow the Justice Dept's guidelines and see if Barr wants to alter the rules after the fact? Actually, can't imagine now why the Justice Dept would have rules, it seems it should just be what billy Barr thinks at any given moment

    And sure the President can speak, but anyone with any kind of class knows that his views should come after the verdict is announced, no one in a position of authority is suppose to weigh in on an ongoing trial, but we all know that Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the Judicial system other than as a vehicle to sue someone who catch's him in the act
    These tRumpies are obviously not very intelligent people. If tRump tells them 2+2=5, they will believe it and spend hours trying to convince you they are right. Neither tRump or his "culties" have any integrity.

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    Trump is interfering in trials for his "crooks". America is supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men. Trump wants to control the justice department too, and Barr is helping him do it. We used to have an understanding that presidents and politicians do not comment on ongoing trials. They have the power to sway decisions. Nixon was castigated for saying Manson was guilty before he was tried. That was not acceptable behavior. Trump ignores that and does whatever he wants. You rightys do not care.
    The prosecutors suggested penalties that went by the book. That was their job. They did nothing wrong. The judge decides what the penalty will be. It will not be determined and the righty suckups, Trump and Barr all weighed in. They did not wait until it was done because they wanted to pressure the judge to lower what she was going to do.
    Righyts cannot understand how wrong and damaging this is.Trump is steamrolling the walls between the equal branches. He is a king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    If anyone presented evidence of any kind on Trump you would say it was fake, you are one of those murder on 5th Avenue lemmings, and to not believe Barr took his orders from Trump is to believe that Trump didn't use needed foreign aid as leverage to get the Ukrainians to announce some kind of investigation into Biden

    Barr is overstepping, now are prosecutors everywhere suppose to first check in with Barr to see if they should follow the established sentencing rules, or, just go ahead and follow the Justice Dept's guidelines and see if Barr wants to alter the rules after the fact? Actually, can't imagine now why the Justice Dept would have rules, it seems it should just be what billy Barr thinks at any given moment

    And sure the President can speak, but anyone with any kind of class knows that his views should come after the verdict is announced, no one in a position of authority is suppose to weigh in on an ongoing trial, but we all know that Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the Judicial system other than as a vehicle to sue someone who catch's him in the act
    No its….the evidence....or lack of evidence, JUST LIKE THE FAKE MULLER PROBE and the FAKE IMPEACHMENT demonstrate...…….evidence TRUMPS propaganda every time. Or has Trump been removed covertly in the middle of the night? Transparency is the key. As long as the left assumes that Trump is as corrupt as they are and will hide information from the people....they will continue to fall into these TRANSPARENT TRAPS.

    They expected Trump to fire Muller and hide....HE DID NOT he allowed the entire corrupt thing to play out in front of the nation....TRANSPARENCY. Just like the left expected Trump to hide the Ukraine phone calls from the public....HE DID NOT he declassified them......the left had nothing, that's why shitforbrains attempted to make up a phone call transcript....Trump blindsided them with TRANSPARENCY. Facts never change...but lies do. First it was Quid Pro Quo, then it was Bribery......then it was abuse of power....the lie just kept moving the goal posts with each failure to obtain evidence that did not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    No its….the evidence....or lack of evidence, JUST LIKE THE FAKE MULLER PROBE and the FAKE IMPEACHMENT demonstrate...…….evidence TRUMPS propaganda every time. Or has Trump been removed covertly in the middle of the night? Transparency is the key. As long as the left assumes that Trump is as corrupt as they are and will hide information from the people....they will continue to fall into these TRANSPARENT TRAPS.

    They expected Trump to fire Muller and hide....HE DID NOT he allowed the entire corrupt thing to play out in front of the nation....TRANSPARENCY. Just like the left expected Trump to hide the Ukraine phone calls from the public....HE DID NOT he declassified them......the left had nothing, that's why shitforbrains attempted to make up a phone call transcript....Trump blindsided them with TRANSPARENCY. Facts never change...but lies do. First it was Quid Pro Quo, then it was Bribery......then it was abuse of power....the lie just kept moving the goal posts with each failure to obtain evidence that did not exist.
    6 Trumpies in jail about 30 indicted and you call Mueller fake. You are not too bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    6 Trumpies in jail about 30 indicted and you call Mueller fake. You are not too bright.
    Present the list of criminals that were prosecuted for Collusion and or Conspiracy (the mission statement of the wink, wink, Muller Probe)…...all the indictments were for crimes that either existed before any of them worked for Donald Trump or they were indictments for "procedural crimes". I call that FAKE when you are attempting to tie any of the indictments to Russian interference and collusion with Donald Trump. Hell......Wiseman called CNN for the raids on Manafort and Stone...…….they showed up with swat teams and even had seal type divers out back of Stone's property....they broke down the door in the predawn hours....and by the time the court house was open the camera's showed STONE walking down the front steps a FREE MAN granted bail under his own recognizance.

    Yeah....some threat to society, WISEMAN acted like Manafort and Stone where international terrorists or Mafia Kingpins...…...it was a dog and pony show. The reason that BARR decided to step in in both cases....they were nothing but made up crimes of procedure......or they were crimes that were from years or decades previous to Trump even running for POTUS. The OPTICS failed....instead of putting on a show for the public to bring down TRUMP's electability creds...….you simply have driven his numbers up by 12% overall and even allowed the BLACK VOTE to increase toward Trump by 25%. If that number alone remains all summer. The democrat party is dead and buried.....they have taken advantage of the black communities in this nation for way to long, holding them static in an endless generational welfare cycle. Just like there is Brexit in Europe.....there is a BLACKXIT in the US.

    The TRUTH defeats propaganda every time. Let's see that documented list of 30 TRUMP campaign team members that were indicted for Russian Collusion and or Conspiracy. PROCEED....number them 1-thirty. Go ahead....detail the connection between any RUSSIAN and the Trump campaign. You will not because YOU CANNNOT. Its all propagandized Bloviation...….How can you tell when a leftist is lying....their lips are moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Present the list of criminals that were prosecuted for Collusion and or Conspiracy (the mission statement of the wink, wink, Muller Probe)…...all the indictments were for crimes that either existed before any of them worked for Donald Trump or they were indictments for "procedural crimes". I call that FAKE when you are attempting to tie any of the indictments to Russian interference and collusion with Donald Trump. Hell......Wiseman called CNN for the raids on Manafort and Stone...…….they showed up with swat teams and even had seal type divers out back of Stone's property....they broke down the door in the predawn hours....and by the time the court house was open the camera's showed STONE walking down the front steps a FREE MAN granted bail under his own recognizance.

    Yeah....some threat to society, WISEMAN acted like Manafort and Stone where international terrorists or Mafia Kingpins...…...it was a dog and pony show. The reason that BARR decided to step in in both cases....they were nothing but made up crimes of procedure......or they were crimes that were from years or decades previous to Trump even running for POTUS. The OPTICS failed....instead of putting on a show for the public to bring down TRUMP's electability creds...….you simply have driven his numbers up by 12% overall and even allowed the BLACK VOTE to increase toward Trump by 25%. If that number alone remains all summer. The democrat party is dead and buried.....they have taken advantage of the black communities in this nation for way to long, holding them static in an endless generational welfare cycle. Just like there is Brexit in Europe.....there is a BLACKXIT in the US.

    The TRUTH defeats propaganda every time. Let's see that documented list of 30 TRUMP campaign team members that were indicted for Russian Collusion and or Conspiracy. PROCEED....number them 1-thirty. Go ahead....detail the connection between any RUSSIAN and the Trump campaign. You will not because YOU CANNNOT. Its all propagandized Bloviation...….How can you tell when a leftist is lying....their lips are moving.
    Here you go. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/3266050002/ I suppiose you will want names and addresses of them next. Your game is clear, shift the goal posts. It was never about collusion. Not ever. When Trump was told collusion was not defined as a crime in the investigations, he talked about it over and over. He knew the ones who refuse to learn would repeat the dishonest message over and over. That would be you and other rightys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    It don’t matter. Trump will pardon him
    It does matter. it is not so much about Stone serving time as it is about the damage this fiasco is doing to the country and our justice system. Even though you would love it, Trump will not be president forever. the next president can get involved in the other branches too. You will have no right to bitch. You are in a group that wants an imperial presidency. Someday we will get one crazier than trump who is smart. Then we will be a different country forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It does matter. it is not so much about Stone serving time as it is about the damage this fiasco is doing to the country and our justice system. Even though you would love it, Trump will not be president forever. the next president can get involved in the other branches too. You will have no right to bitch. You are in a group that wants an imperial presidency. Someday we will get one crazier than trump who is smart. Then we will be a different country forever.

    I stopped caring. Burn the bitch down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It does matter. it is not so much about Stone serving time as it is about the damage this fiasco is doing to the country and our justice system. Even though you would love it, Trump will not be president forever. the next president can get involved in the other branches too. You will have no right to bitch. You are in a group that wants an imperial presidency. Someday we will get one crazier than trump who is smart. Then we will be a different country forever.
    It will be hilarious to watch the "trumpophobes" go ballistic when a Dem Prez decides to employ some Trump style tactics. We will have to have them institutionalized.

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