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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am hoping that Michael Bloomberg will be the nominee. My guess is that the second spot on my "hope" ticket, would be a woman or a man "of color."

    My feelings are that it will be a very, very uphill fight no matter how the Democratic Party ticket sorts out. Sanders is such a huge dividing element in the fight, he and his supporters will impact negatively whether he wins or loses. In any case, my guess is that the demographics of the states following Iowa and New Hampshire, mean that the first and second place showings are probably over for him at this point.
    Very Interesting "hope"...It certainly is a messy mess out there for the Democrats....everyone is fighting with everyone...
    Around here it's suddenly very quiet on the liberal front...and it's Never Quiet in this hood unless they're fighting among themselves...it's a first....
    I guess we just all stay tuned and keep busy with other things

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Frank,



    What. You want saving the planet to be easy?

    What it shows is that nothing is a done deal. It's all wide open. If Bernie gets the nom all is definitely not lost. Sure, it's a tough sell to get the mushy middle to accept socialism, but that's nothing more than a challenge. So at that point ya gotta say: 'Is it worth it?' One thing's fur sure. The hate cult is fired up and they are going to vote no matter what. The only question mark is: will progressives be motivated enough to come out and save the planet from idiocy. I think it's doable.

    And, of course, for now, there's still the Bloomberg wild card.

    It's tough for us now because we are scattered and divided with so many candidates. They have the one. There's no mystery for them. We have question marks. That will change. After the DNC we will have one candidate and the match will be on. Then we will see if we can bring all these scattered elements together for one massive push to evict IMPOTUS.
    Read the shit you write. You are part of the communist/socialist "hate cult." That's Ok though, you will be crushed in November.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It exists, clearly, to deny democracy. It ensures that very small states can equal much bigger ones, obviously.
    So, you suggest smaller states have no voice in our elections? Pathetic communist stupid foreigner...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am hoping that Michael Bloomberg will be the nominee. My guess is that the second spot on my "hope" ticket, would be a woman or a man "of color."

    My feelings are that it will be a very, very uphill fight no matter how the Democratic Party ticket sorts out. Sanders is such a huge dividing element in the fight, he and his supporters will impact negatively whether he wins or loses. In any case, my guess is that the demographics of the states following Iowa and New Hampshire, mean that the first and second place showings are probably over for him at this point.
    Frank, you want a man or woman of color as VP?

    Isn’t that the definition of racism?

    How about we elect the person who can improve the lives of all Americans, defend our borders, fight terrorism at home and abroad, allow Americans more discretionary income by lowering taxes, remove strangling regulations, puts America and Americans first and loves our economic system of freedom and Capitalism that has served us beautifully for more than two hundred years?

    Oh, wait, we elected such a person in 2016.

    I would vote for a purple person if he/she/it could accomplish all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    no. it exists like a Congress model. It's still proportional representation ( CA has a slew of E.C. delegates)
    But it's weighted to give all states 2 voters.. It's set up just like Congressional representation
    It made sense once. Now it is just a way to deny democracy, as well you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So, you suggest smaller states have no voice in our elections? Pathetic communist stupid foreigner...
    No, peasasnt - a proportionate voice. You seem to be extremely thick, even for a trumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    No, peasasnt - a proportionate voice. You seem to be extremely thick, even for a trumper.
    Do you vote in our elections, sheep herder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It made sense once. Now it is just a way to deny democracy, as well you know.
    actually it was always meant to deny direct democracy

    the founders loathed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So, you suggest smaller states have no voice in our elections? Pathetic communist stupid foreigner...
    I thought lefties preached equality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    actually it was always meant to deny direct democracy

    the founders loathed it
    Slaver-owners tend to that sort of opinion, naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Slaver-owners tend to that sort of opinion, naturally.
    not an argument

    also the Constitution was written as to limit the power of slave states. You would know that if you were learned in these things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    actually it was always meant to deny direct democracy

    the founders loathed it
    13.3% of Hillary's total popular vote count came from ONE State. 20% of her total came from only TWO States.

    That's why the founders put in the EC system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    not an argument

    also the Constitution was written as to limit the power of slave states. You would know that if you were learned in these things
    Those limitations lessened the number of EVs in slave States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So, you suggest smaller states have no voice in our elections? Pathetic communist stupid foreigner...
    STATES...should not have any say in the elections, RB. They are areas of land. PEOPLE should have the choice...not areas of land.

    But, in order to form this Union in the situation that existed when it was formed...areas of land had to be considered...so we are stuck with it. I see no way to do away with the Electoral College...although I think it to be an antiquated piece of crap which will always favor conservatives.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am hoping the long-shot run of Bloomberg proves fruitful. And then I am hoping the Sanders supporters will vote for him, or whichever other candidate is successful.

    The country is not ready for Sanders just yet.
    We often talk politics at school. The program I am in (Native American Studies) has students with a lot of interest in politics. Most of them are for either Buttigieg or Sanders. But unlike last time, if Sanders doesn't get the nomination they are saying that they are prepared to vote for whoever does. The goal is to remove TRE45ON. I don't know if this energy and interest is common across the country in college students, but I'm hoping so. They are very energized where we're at.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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