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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    That's right. There is no Santa Clause, no tooth fairy and no god. It is true that there is some supernatural stuff that happens sometimes. But it only makes a ghost of a difference. Which is .99999% nothing. Reality is what matters. For example, in my lifetime I have seen tens of thousands of buildings. I have also driven down thousands of miles of roads. I have also eaten many cultivated plants. Not one building, even doghouse, has ever been miracled into existence. Not one inch of any road has ever been miracled into existence. Not one furrow in a cultivated field has ever been miracled into existence.

    Here is something else for you to keep in mind. Religion doesn't get rid of evil. It is the cause of it! Because evil is the only result that can ultimately come from lies. And lies are what religion is all about.
    So how old are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    Their plan is to replace Jesus,with their Orange Messiah.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    That isn't telling me how. That is telling me just how fucked up the christian religion is. Though there are worse religions. Such as islam.
    Was the world better off without religion and morality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    That's right. There is no Santa Clause,
    Dear Vlad the Impaler,

    I would like to tell you everything I know about Oblivion.

    Q. If there was no such thing as the traditional Religions, would you have other complaints?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    That's right. There is no Santa Clause, no tooth fairy and no god.
    Okay. You have faith in several religions. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    It is true that there is some supernatural stuff that happens sometimes.
    Define "supernatural". Define "natural".

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    But it only makes a ghost of a difference. Which is .99999% nothing.
    Here, you're making up numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    Reality is what matters.
    Define "reality".

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    For example, in my lifetime I have seen tens of thousands of buildings. I have also driven down thousands of miles of roads. I have also eaten many cultivated plants.
    Me too.

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    Not one building, even doghouse, has ever been miracled into existence. Not one inch of any road has ever been miracled into existence. Not one furrow in a cultivated field has ever been miracled into existence.
    Define "miracled".

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    Here is something else for you to keep in mind. Religion doesn't get rid of evil. It is the cause of it!
    No. Religion in and of itself is fine. In fact, we all are religious about one thing or another, as mankind is a religious animal. It is fundamentalism that is at the root of various evils. You yourself are being a fundamentalist. You are attempting to prove your religions you mentioned at the start of this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    Because evil is the only result that can ultimately come from lies. And lies are what religion is all about.
    Redefinition Fallacy (religion <-> lies)
    Circular Argument Fallacy (attempting to prove your religions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    And...…......………...……………………..WHAT??
    He is attempting to prove his religions that he mentioned in his OP. In other words, he is being a fundamentalist.

    He is just throwing around various words that he doesn't know the definitions of (or cannot consistently define) such as "religion", "supernatural", "reality", ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    If you prefer lies, that is your problem.
    Redefinition Fallacy (religion <-> lies)
    Circular Argument Fallacy (attempting to prove your religions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    He is attempting to prove his religions that he mentioned in his OP. In other words, he is being a fundamentalist.

    He is just throwing around various words that he doesn't know the definitions of (or cannot consistently define) such as "religion", "supernatural", "reality", ...
    I was curious as to why it bothered him so much and how it affected him!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freshsea View Post
    That's right. There is no Santa Clause, no tooth fairy and no god.
    Prove they don't exist! Should be easy for a deep thinker like yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I was curious as to why it bothered him so much and how it affected him!!
    He seems to have no idea what religion is, nor the logical framework behind religion. He doesn't strike me as an individual who is familiar with logic.

    Therefore, he likely doesn't realize that he himself is practicing several religions, which at that point it is very easy to be a fundamentalist and "wage war upon" religions which he does not adhere to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Prove they don't exist! Should be easy for a deep thinker like yourself.
    IF he was studied in logic (he obviously isn't), he would respond to you by calling out your post to him as an "Attempted Force of a Negative Proof Fallacy" (because you are attempting to get him to prove a negative regarding an open set, which would be an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy on his part). In other words, you are attempting to force him to commit an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy.

    BUT, since he isn't studied in logic, he would likely oblige to your request and attempt to prove their non-existence (thus committing an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy).


    His problem is that he has no clue what religion is, nor the logical framework that religion is built upon. He is a fundamentalist of his religions likely due to his lack of understanding about his practicing of those religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    IF he was studied in logic (he obviously isn't), he would respond to you by calling out your post to him as an "Attempted Force of a Negative Proof Fallacy" (because you are attempting to get him to prove a negative regarding an open set, which would be an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy on his part). In other words, you are attempting to force him to commit an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy.

    BUT, since he isn't studied in logic, he would likely oblige to your request and attempt to prove their non-existence (thus committing an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy).


    His problem is that he has no clue what religion is, nor the logical framework that religion is built upon. He is a fundamentalist of his religions likely due to his lack of understanding about his practicing of those religions.
    Man is ignorant of how to create life from none life elements because he doesn't know how to do it. Then logically it must follow that somewhere there is someone or some thing that does know how to do it or live wouldn't exist.

    You can say it's an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy. But at some point you must allow simple logic to intercede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Man is ignorant of how to create life from none life elements because he doesn't know how to do it. Then logically it must follow that somewhere there is someone or some thing that does know how to do it or live wouldn't exist.

    You can say it's an Argument of Ignorance Fallacy. But at some point you must allow simple logic to intercede.
    It all comes down to the fact that it is a past unobserved event, so any theory about it is a religious theory.

    Personally, I find the existence of life to be strong evidence for the truth of Christianity, but that's all it is... evidence. Not a proof of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It all comes down to the fact that it is a past unobserved event, so any theory about it is a religious theory.

    Personally, I find the existence of life to be strong evidence for the truth of Christianity, but that's all it is... evidence. Not a proof of any kind.
    Let me give you something to think about if there is a god who created life here or it was a process where different chemicals came together. Out of the trillions of solar systems in limitless space why would ours be the only one that has life as we know it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Let me give you something to think about if there is a god who created life here or it was a process where different chemicals came together. Out of the trillions of solar systems in limitless space why would ours be the only one that has life as we know it?
    Good question. If you know the answer to it, then you're a better man than I.

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