The Freedom of Speech Thread.

**freshsea** · 02-09-2020, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Jack

'Freedom of Speech'. Look at Fox News. Is 'Alternate Facts' spread by a Propaganda*Machine 'Freedom of Speech'?

How true. If only the government would pass a law saying that if people say things, they must be true things. But in the cause of evil and criminality, that will never happen. As for anything you might see on TV in the way of news, it is only those with money who have any voice. My avatar shows the only cure to any of that.

**StoneByStone** · 02-09-2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

No. But I have been banned often enough for saying things. True things. Also, what has the government-law to do with anything. Corporations hold much more sway over people's lives. Is any network news run by the government? Is there a political forum like this out there run by the government? I saw a politician on TV once who was being interviewed in Washington. He actually spoke some truth. He said, "There is so much legal graft that goes on in Washington, that only a fool would get involved in the illegal kind." The main purpose of politicians is to shake babies and kiss hands. Despite "freedom of speech."

Some of the pictures and quotes I showed you have to click on to read properly. If you did so, you would say that each had some pretty good things to say. Though I have one of my own for you. Which is probably the best of all. That being, "A truth purposefully not spoken is as bad as any lie."

Freedom of speech means that the government can't oppress you for saying things. Private companies can still fire you for saying things they feel represent the company badly.

**freshsea** · 02-09-2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by StoneByStone

Freedom of speech means that the government can't oppress you for saying things. Private companies can still fire you for saying things they feel represent the company badly.

That's right. The nearly powerless government can't suppress free speech. They leave that to their all powerful Corporate masters to do.

**StoneByStone** · 02-09-2020, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

That's right. The nearly powerless government can't suppress free speech. They leave that to their all powerful Corporate masters to do.

Well that's part of having private companies. Would you rather all companies be nationalized like in a communist country?

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

How true. If only the government would pass a law saying that if people say things, they must be true things. But in the cause of evil and criminality, that will never happen. As for anything you might see on TV in the way of news, it is only those with money who have any voice. My avatar shows the only cure to any of that.

Fox is registered as a entertainment network,not news.So they can legally lie.

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by StoneByStone

Well that's part of having private companies. Would you rather all companies be nationalized like in a communist country?

Yes.

**StoneByStone** · 02-09-2020, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Marxist Mason

Yes.

Well yeah, I expect that from a dude calling himself a Marxist.
Just hope if that happens, we get a dictator you like.

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by StoneByStone

Well yeah, I expect that from a dude calling himself a Marxist.
Just hope if that happens, we get a dictator you like.

I'm a Democratic Marxist

**freshsea** · 02-09-2020, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by StoneByStone

Well that's part of having private companies. Would you rather all companies be nationalized like in a communist country?

Have you ever watched the documentary "The Corporation." It is a little long winded. But they make some very good points. Such as that corporations are psychotic and sociopathic entities. (As well as some other bad things) That isn't something any sane person would want to be ruled by.

Next, only a sane person would want industry nationalized. Companies do what they do for profit. Governments do what they do, in theory, for the people they govern. I want all businesses be nationalized. Not like the communists. But like the Nazis! Not long before Hitler was elected, or maybe at the time that he was elected, Germans literally needed a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread with. Unemployment was also rampant. Hitler fixed all that. He turned Germany economic woes into the economic envy of the world! It's no wonder that slavery promoting capitalists and believers in our laughable "democracy" wanted him destroyed.

**freshsea** · 02-09-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Marxist Mason

Fox is registered as a entertainment network,not news.So they can legally lie.

Anybody can legally lie. Where would used car companies for example be without lies.

**freshsea** · 02-09-2020, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Marxist Mason

I'm a Democratic Marxist

Marxist = communist = jews. They all need to die.

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

Marxist = communist = jews. They all need to die.

Thanks for admitting you're a Nazi!

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

Anybody can legally lie. Where would used car companies for example be without lies.

Tell that to the FCC,

**Mason Michaels** · 02-09-2020, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by freshsea

Have you ever watched the documentary "The Corporation." It is a little long winded. But they make some very good points. Such as that corporations are psychotic and sociopathic entities. (As well as some other bad things) That isn't something any sane person would want to be ruled by.

Next, only a sane person would want industry nationalized. Companies do what they do for profit. Governments do what they do, in theory, for the people they govern. I want all businesses be nationalized. Not like the communists. But like the Nazis! Not long before Hitler was elected, or maybe at the time that he was elected, Germans literally needed a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread with. Unemployment was also rampant. Hitler fixed all that. He turned Germany economic woes into the economic envy of the world! It's no wonder that slavery promoting capitalists and believers in our laughable "democracy" wanted him destroyed.

You skipped what caused the Inflation was Reparations to the allies.
Do you masterbate while reading Mein Kampf?

**StoneByStone** · 02-09-2020, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marxist Mason

I'm a Democratic Marxist

How does that work? Marx essentially wanted a Dictatorship that, he believed, would eventually wither away along with the government itself. In order to get to Communism, you have to go through Dictatorship.
I guess you could say all businesses should be nationalized without us giving up our Democracy. However, at that point, the government would have so much power, it would be almost impossible to not end up with some form of Authoritarianism.