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    Default Sanders - "We are going to end cash bail in America"

    This is insane. Most criminals will just take off then after arrest.

    https://nypost.com/2020/02/07/bernie...cratic-debate/

    feb 7 2020 Sen. Bernie Sanders called for an end to cash bail across the country at the Democratic debate on Friday night, saying there are hundreds of thousands of people locked up because they can’t afford a several-hundred-dollar fee.

    Sanders made his call to end bail as the candidates debated America’s criminal justice system and how it affects minorities in the United States.

    “Most people don’t know this. Tonight in America, 200,000 people are in jail without having been convicted of anything. Two hundred thousand people — because they can’t afford the 500 bucks they need to get out of jail,” Sanders said.

    “That is outrageous. We are going to end cash bail in America,” he added.
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    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    This is insane. Most criminals will just take off then after arrest.
    If the only incentive to going to court is to get bail back, and most bailees pay through a bail bondsman, and therefore do not get any money back, by Texting Driver's logic, none would be going to court now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    If the only incentive to going to court is to get bail back, and most bailees pay through a bail bondsman, and therefore do not get any money back, by Texting Driver's logic, none would be going to court now.
    what?? you still pay a bondsman 10% in most cases of the bail - if you don't show up then you are responsible for the entire bail amount. As usual you are clueless.

    It's been shown that simply releasing without bail ( and low level offenses without a prior record use get released on "own recognizance" ) for repeat offenders encourages more crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    If the only incentive to going to court is to get bail back, and most bailees pay through a bail bondsman, and therefore do not get any money back, by Texting Driver's logic, none would be going to court now.
    Isn't there something the bail bondsmen can do if the crooks skip out on bail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Isn't there something the bail bondsmen can do if the crooks skip out on bail?
    Of course. He comes after you to make you pay and the arrestee know that. He knows he better show up in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Isn't there something the bail bondsmen can do if the crooks skip out on bail?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    "Dog" The Bounty Hunter was convicted of murder. He and a friend of his murdered a drug dealer to steal his drugs. Even if you think he deserves a second chance after being released from prison, why should that second chance include judging who gets out on bail? It is the fox guarding the chicken coup. Don't believe me, look it up.

    Imagine you get arrested for a crime you did not commit, and want to get out of prison. The guard at the jail tells you to call a bail bondsman he suggests. You do not know that he is getting a kickback. You then pay the bail bondsman the most he thinks you can pay. Then Chapman investigates you, and finds out you can pay more. If you do not pay him, he violates your bail, and you will have to wait in jail for months. So you keep paying him until you can pay no more. Months later, you are found not guilty, but you never get your money back.

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    It was not even manslaughter. Chapman actually was convicted of FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

    At least trump's good friend Don King was only found guilty of manslaughter, though I tend to think he was guilty of far more when he stomped another human to death.

    Can there be any two points of view further apart than Obama and Don King? Obama says blacks (and really all people) should get an education to improve their situation. King says blacks getting an education is a waste of time, and is just acting white. When King said that, trump was just nodding his head in agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    "Dog" The Bounty Hunter was convicted of murder. He and a friend of his murdered a drug dealer to steal his drugs. Even if you think he deserves a second chance after being released from prison, why should that second chance include judging who gets out on bail? It is the fox guarding the chicken coup. Don't believe me, look it up.

    Imagine you get arrested for a crime you did not commit, and want to get out of prison. The guard at the jail tells you to call a bail bondsman he suggests. You do not know that he is getting a kickback. You then pay the bail bondsman the most he thinks you can pay. Then Chapman investigates you, and finds out you can pay more. If you do not pay him, he violates your bail, and you will have to wait in jail for months. So you keep paying him until you can pay no more. Months later, you are found not guilty, but you never get your money back.
    It was satire! I think he's an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    If the only incentive to going to court is to get bail back, and most bailees pay through a bail bondsman, and therefore do not get any money back, by Texting Driver's logic, none would be going to court now.
    HAHAHA. You obviously have no idea how bail is handled. The bondsman takes 10% for himself and you never get that money back. That's why most prisoners try to make bail with their own money. THINK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    If the only incentive to going to court is to get bail back, and most bailees pay through a bail bondsman, and therefore do not get any money back, by Texting Driver's logic, none would be going to court now.
    LOL what a smooth-brain you are.
    >the only reason they are going to court
    Imagine being this stupid

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    These are the things white folks don't care about because it doesn't effect them.

    Good for you Bernie

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    These are the things white folks don't care about because it doesn't effect them.

    Good for you Bernie
    sure. white people don't get arrested and have to post bond.
    more stupidity.
    If it's a low level offense, with no priors - then you probably don't need to post bail.

    But repeat offenders and serious crimes require bail -same as it's been thru centuries of English common law

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    These are the things white folks don't care about because it doesn't effect them.

    Good for you Bernie
    Poor people live different lives that most whites do not understand. If you get a traffic ticket and cannot afford to pay it, they put a warrant out for your arrest. If a cop encounters you, you go directly to jail. can't afford bail, you sit it out, as much as a year. Your job is gone, your family is suffering and you are in a cell. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/..._by_state.html In some states over 80 percent of inmates are there awaiting trial. They are convicted of nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Poor people live different lives that most whites do not understand. If you get a traffic ticket and cannot afford to pay it, they put a warrant out for your arrest. If a cop encounters you, you go directly to jail. can't afford bail, you sit it out, as much as a year. Your job is gone, your family is suffering and you are in a cell. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/..._by_state.html In some states over 80 percent of inmates are there awaiting trial. They are convicted of nothing.
    "in jail" doen't mean long term holding for a "traffic ticket" -it's like overnight holding in most cases.

    Then you see a judge, and pay the fine..why are you entitled to drive (considered a "privilege")
    and break traffic laws just because you are poor?

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