USFREEDOM911 (02-07-2020)
It is now obvious what must be done.
Politics must be suppressed at a time when the nation needs justice.
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Cinnabar (02-09-2020), Phantasmal (02-07-2020)
This is the right thing to do.
Impeachment is already political enough - that is unavoidable.
This measure will help make the outcome less so.
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USFREEDOM911 (02-07-2020)
Yes. More government secrecy is always good.
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PoliTalker (02-07-2020)
Are you out of your mind? You want the removal of a president to be behind closed doors in a smoke filled room? The whole reason for sunshine laws is to keep political actions on the up and up. What a slippery slope you propose. Typical leftie didn't get your way so change the system so you can cheat next time.
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Sirthinksalot (02-10-2020), USFREEDOM911 (02-07-2020)
No, I prefer Senators be held accountable, like they will be come November.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
Hello I<3Big Anime Tiddies,
Then you should also agree to the following:
When considering an impeachment the concern is not how it represents what the people think about it.
It is not a matter of representation.
The concern is determining guilt.
Did the person being impeached do the suspected incorrect thing or not?
Is the misconduct a high crime against the Constitution?
If the answer to both questions is yes then the person should be found guilty and removed from office.
That's the oath they took.
There is no oath to defend the suspect, nor to represent what the public thinks happened. Nor to consider how their vote will affect their chances of reelection. That should not be a consideration. That's not what impeachment should be about.
The task at hand is about performing proper oversight of a coequal branch of government. This is what the public depends on Congress to do. No other body can do it. The responsibility is theirs. This time, they blew it. A big part of that failure is concern for how their votes will be perceived. We will get better justice on this going forward if we change the Constitution to make impeachment votes done by secret ballot.
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USFREEDOM911 (02-10-2020)
Why would we need to change the Constitution? The two Houses of Congress have the constitutional authority to make their own rules as long as they don't violate anybody's constitutional rights. The only constitutional mandate I know of concerning voting in impeachments is the mandate for a 2/3ds majority to convict.
Careful what you wish for Trump would likely have been acquitted by a 7/8 majority, huh? NAH! Never happen Democrats HATE Mob ain't that honest, or for that matter honest at all!
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Truth Detector (02-11-2020)
That is for cowards. Since it is a political process the voters should know the political decisions made by their senators. You cannot suppress politics in a political body given sole authority over the process.
It is not like the vote would have been very different with a secret ballot.
The losing side always wants to change the rules because they think their side will do better--abolish the electoral college, change campaign finance rules, invoke the "nuclear option" to confirm nominations, increase the size of the Supreme Court, make government more transparent, now less transparent......
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