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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    Trump was guilty
    Guilty of what, you fcking retard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Guilty of what, you fcking retard?
    Guilty as charged
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    Guilty as charged
    Guilty as charged with what, you fcking retard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Guilty as charged with what, you fcking retard?
    The charges he was charged with,but the Senate didn't hold a trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    There is no way to change the Electoral College part of the Constitution today, TTQ. It just ain't gonna happen.

    I Imagine if we can't change the constitution for the electoral college, we can't change it for impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    The charges he was charged with,but the Senate didn't hold a trial.
    A trial for what crime, you fcking retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    A trial for what crime, you fcking retard.
    The charges he was impeached over dumb ass!
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I haven't follow the thread so my apologies if this has already been discussed. For the sake of discussion let's say all future impeachment votes are secret. Clearly the media and voters and going to guess how Senators voted. And voters will ask Senators how they voted. Will there be something in the amendment that states Senators can't share that info? And there are very few secrets in Washington, how do we know that the vote will never be leaked?
    Assume there is a way to do the vote so that each Senator may vote either way, only once, and the tally will not be recorded. Suppose they are all issued just one ballot. Check it either way, fold it and one by one, upon being called come forward and drop one ballot into the box. The number would be carefully counted to ensure no extra votes or none missing.

    They would be free to say anything they like about it, if they wish to, but not required to. People could guess who voted how but they would not necessarily know. The media could make no certain claims of voting results because none would exist.
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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Good point. If the president tried to defeat the Senator(s) that voted to convict him, he might go after the wrong ones trying to guess who it was--Romney, Collins, Gardner, Murkowski, Alexander, McSally? These were all possibilities listed by Newsweek.
    And if he were removed from office his words would become moot. A removed president would not be given the respect of a current or other ex president. He would be the disgruntled fired worker. With a secret ballot the fear of retribution would be removed because nobody would have to know how each Senator voted..
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    Hello Marxist Mason,

    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    Trump would have been convicted under a secret vote.
    Even though I want him removed,I didn't want a secret vote.
    I wanted to see who were cowards
    Revenge is a shallow endeavor. It would be better if he were convicted and removed. We already know most of the remaining Republican party is under the spell of the cult. Seeing who it is, definitively, is not worth giving up a conviction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    And if he were removed from office his words would become moot. A removed president would not be given the respect of a current or other ex president. He would be the disgruntled fired worker. With a secret ballot the fear of retribution would be removed because nobody would have to know how each Senator voted..
    So you're saying that the people who voted for these senators (that are supposed to represent them) shouldn't know how their representatives voted? Pathetic communist...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So you're saying that the people who voted for these senators (that are supposed to represent them) shouldn't know how their representatives voted? Pathetic communist...
    How is it Communist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    How is it Communist?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So you ran your nichol lip,when called on it,you have no answer.
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    When deciding on guilt or innocence, the decision should be made based on the evidence of the case, not somebody who is worried about reelection.
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