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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    What leftys want open borders. provide names. I know of none.
    Anyone who wants to abolish ICE and CBP wants open borders, whether they admit it or not.

    If you get rid of the agencies tasked with enforcing immigration policies and border security, you are advocating for open borders.

    If you demand that detainment ends, it's the same thing as well.

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    read the new way forward bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post

    You quit spewing that garbage before people realize the magnitude of ignorant that you are displaying. You have excuses for socialisms failure that defy logic and historical review. Then you call those trying to help you not look so stupid names. You cant even produce a single example because of your silly excuses.

    I can give you many examples of its failure. Several that capitalism didn't kill a single person. The USSR had the second most powerful military in the world and nobody dare kill them. They just collapsed because it's a failed system.
    Unlike you, child, I have never been brainwashed, know something about Marx and about socialism, and spent much of my early life arguing with brainwashed Stalinists. On the whole they were mildly more open-minded than your goodself. Capitalism kills millions, as you know, as if battles for markets to exploit. The USSR, like other capitalist states, took its share in the work. Does it never trouble you that the nearest puppy knows more about the world than you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    You Brits conquered lots of land and guess what it was yours. Hypocrite tea drinking fool. Invite some more arabs to screw your once beautiful country up some more why dont you lol.
    The UK was the centre of capitalism then, as is the US now. So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Anyone who wants to abolish ICE and CBP wants open borders, whether they admit it or not.

    If you get rid of the agencies tasked with enforcing immigration policies and border security, you are advocating for open borders.

    If you demand that detainment ends, it's the same thing as well.
    Names?

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    [QUOTE=Penderyn;3504972]
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post

    Unlike you, child, I have never been brainwashed, know something about Marx and about socialism, and spent much of my early life arguing with brainwashed Stalinists. On the whole they were mildly more open-minded than your goodself. Capitalism kills millions, as you know, as if battles for markets to exploit. The USSR, like other capitalist states, took its share in the work. Does it never trouble you that the nearest puppy knows more about the world than you do?
    You push socialism despite it never working. Nothing you say about someone else's intelligence carries any weight. Your credibility is in the toilet. KID!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post

    You push socialism despite it never working. Nothing you say about someone else's intelligence carries any weight. Your credibility is in the toilet. KID!
    Nobody is pushing socialism unless you define it as providing healthcare and safety nets for citizens. If that is it, I am all for it. Quit talking about what you think is your expertise. Prove it by the posts, not your spurious claims.
    America is turning into a plutocracy and it not by serendipity. It is a long term plan by the super-wealthy who have made real programs and policies to create it. Like Trump's stupid tax bill. It crankled up the debt, moved more wealth to the top and did practically nothing for the people. he walked in Mira Lago and announced he made them all a bit richer.
    Bernie was a socialist long ago. It is a label he once was happy with. But he has worked in the American system for 50 years. We know who he is. We know who Trump is too, and it is ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Names?
    When it comes to abolishing ICE, Sanders has supported this policy.

    AOC has advocated abolishing both ICE and CBP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    When it comes to abolishing ICE, Sanders has supported this policy.

    AOC has advocated abolishing both ICE and CBP.
    So 2 people might have once been against ICE. That is real movement you are discussing, isn't it? You made a claim and then looked it up and found 2 . You worry too much about what will never happen. There will be no open borders. Both Repugs and Dems have built and maintained fences and walls where they are needed. Trump bragged about the new fencing when it was just continuing Obama's project of repairing existing fences. ICE has been used politically and abusively. That should be abolished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    So 2 people might have once been against ICE. That is real movement you are discussing, isn't it? You made a claim and then looked it up and found 2 . You worry too much about what will never happen. There will be no open borders. Both Repugs and Dems have built and maintained fences and walls where they are needed. Trump bragged about the new fencing when it was just continuing Obama's project of repairing existing fences. ICE has been used politically and abusively. That should be abolished.
    It's a lot more than just 2 people. I can put together a list eventually if you actually are interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    It's a lot more than just 2 people. I can put together a list eventually if you actually are interested.
    I already know. it is very few people and you making a lot out of nothing. there is no threat to ICE. they are not going anywhere. but they certainly could use some adult supervision. They work for the wealthy, Companies hire lots of illegals and they get a warning when ICE is coming. Mulvaney said we need a lot of immigrants for labor. ICE is corrupted,.

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    Its virtually the entire demonrat party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post

    You push socialism despite it never working. Nothing you say about someone else's intelligence carries any weight. Your credibility is in the toilet. KID!
    Since your stormtroopers murder those who try, how would you know, Nazi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I already know. it is very few people and you making a lot out of nothing. there is no threat to ICE. they are not going anywhere. but they certainly could use some adult supervision. They work for the wealthy, Companies hire lots of illegals and they get a warning when ICE is coming. Mulvaney said we need a lot of immigrants for labor. ICE is corrupted,.
    Employers of illegals definitely need to be held accountable. If we started to send them to prison over breaking federal laws, then I think a good portion of the problem would be solved.

    I know why your side wants to pretend it's nothing, however. Eventually, you want illegals to get amnesty, which would mean a lot of new voters for your side.

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