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Thread: DO LIBERALS SUFFER FROM COGNITIVE DISSONANCE?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    Moderates are few and far between.
    No, they're just quiet most of the time. They don't follow politics closely, and they don't tend to frequent political forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope, that is not open borders. it is tough to judge all asylum cases, but that is what we profess we will do. But is no way is that open borders. The Dems and Repub admins have put up fencing and walls over time. That is merely the opposite of open borders.
    Then there should be no issue with detainment from Democrats. And if they think that conditions are bad, then fund better facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Odd. I’m a liberal and so are many of my friends. None of us support open borders.
    Lie.
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    That makes you either stupid or a liar. Or, more likely, a stupid liar.
    Inversion fallacy.
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    Time and again, police brutality against blacks has been proven.
    Lie. Racism.
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    That has ZERO to do with police carrying weapons as part of their job.
    Irrelevance fallacy.
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    There again is your demonstration of stupidity.
    Insult fallacy.
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    Clown
    Insult fallacy.

    Note Domer's random disconnected thoughts. I believe Woko Haram has a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's literally all Christians. Nobody follows their own religion.
    You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Bull crap. Capitalism is superior to all others. In fact the only socialism that works only works because capitalism funds it.
    Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    No system that's all Capitalist or all Socialist will work.A mix is the answer.
    WRONG. Capitalism is the ONLY system that creates wealth. It does not require a government at all. It works even in the wilderness. It is what brings civilization out of the wilderness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    No, they're just quiet most of the time. They don't follow politics closely, and they don't tend to frequent political forums.
    They don't tend to live in America
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    WRONG. Capitalism is the ONLY system that creates wealth. It does not require a government at all. It works even in the wilderness. It is what brings civilization out of the wilderness.
    with some oversights, like monopoly busting, and respect for national sovereignty and mitigate some negative impacts on society. "free marekets" just means "markets sculpted to favor large corporations".

    no markets are free. markets secured by militaries on behalf of corporations are not free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxist Mason View Post
    They don't tend to live in America
    Most people I associate with offline are moderate. I'd be surprised if the same wasn't true for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Bull crap. Capitalism is superior to all others. In fact the only socialism that works only works because capitalism funds it.
    Don't be silly - there is no socialism anywhere, and capitalism will burn you and yours to death within the century. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    with some oversights, like monopoly busting, and respect for national sovereignty and mitigate some negative impacts on society. "free marekets" just means "markets sculpted to favor large corporations".

    no markets are free. markets secured by militaries on behalf of corporations are not free.
    Markets are free. You can't kill the free market, even if you drive it underground. See your local drug dealer for details. Monopolies don't need to be busted. They are self destructive.

    Why is there only ONE monopolies commission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Don't be silly - there is no socialism anywhere, and capitalism will burn you and yours to death within the century. Enjoy!
    Socialism exists in Argentina, North Korea, China, elements of Russia, elements of the UK, and elements of the United States. Obviously you have your blinders on.

    Capitalism builds, it doesn't burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Markets are free. You can't kill the free market, even if you drive it underground. See your local drug dealer for details. Monopolies don't need to be busted. They are self destructive.

    Why is there only ONE monopolies commission?
    technically yes. attempts to stop dehumanizing impacts of market forces can and should be attempted. laws do constrain the actions of many, driving up costs of entry to "black markets" for those with the requisite nature and capital to get into that. yes its a little bit of idealist collectivism. im fine with it.

    monopolies can be destructive to society at large, and often are, but the individuals owning that monopoly do well. you know this stop fronting.

    and that's funny about the one monopoly commission. maybe monopoly busting could be a referendum process? I see your point, but im a minarchist, not an anarchist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    technically yes.
    No 'technical' about it. Markets are free. You can't kill the free market. It's immortal.
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    attempts to stop dehumanizing impacts of market forces can and should be attempted.
    There aren't any. Markets are human activity.
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    laws do constrain the actions of many,
    True. When oligarchies are put in charge of markets however, (government control of markets), then you have fascism, a form of socialism.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    driving up costs of entry to "black markets"
    There is no cost of entry to a black market. If you have a product or service, and there is a demand for it, you can sell it for the price you can get for it. It makes NO difference if the product or service is illegal.
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    for those with the requisite nature and capital to get into that.
    Argument from randU fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    yes its a little bit of idealist collectivism. im fine with it.
    I'm not. I abhor fascism or any form of socialism.
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    monopolies can be destructive to society at large,
    Nope. Monopolies self destruct. All it takes is for some individual to start a company that provides the same or better product for cheaper. It won't be long before someone comes around to that monopoly and shoots its kneecaps off. Examples abound in this. Dow chemical breaking into the bromine market in Europe, then dominated by a monopoly there. Microsoft, Apple, AMD, Intel, ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, etc. destroying the IBM monopoly. Linux, Google, and Amazon is even now destroying the Microsoft monopoly. Bing, DuckDuckGo and others are destroying the Google monopoly. YouTube now has several competitors.

    Big corps are not necessarily bad. That idea is a lie, perpetuated by socialists spreading their message of Marxism. US Steel brought the price of steel down in the United States to ridiculously low levels. Now steel is quite commonplace. Gasoline and other oil products are CHEAP right now. We are practically awash in oil. The cost of computers has become so cheap that many homes have not one, but even a dozen computers. Even cars have a dozen or so in them...and they are getting cheaper. Many of these use chips from Intel, AMD, or Broadcom...all big corporations.

    Monopolies often turn into dinosaurs that can't maneuver fast enough in the market when some little competitor comes along. Boeing is currently a monopoly in the United States for large aircraft. They are vulnerable.
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    but the individuals owning that monopoly do well.
    For a time. It won't be long before they won't do well anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you know this stop fronting.
    I am not 'fronting' anything. Capitalism works. Socialism doesn't. End of story. Free markets work. Fascism doesn't. End of story.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    and that's funny about the one monopoly commission. maybe monopoly busting could be a referendum process? I see your point, but im a minarchist, not an anarchist.
    I am neither. I am a constitutionalist. I believe in a republican form of government. I am not arguing anarchy. I am arguing free markets.

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    you're tedious manm,oligarchs are in control of our markets right now.

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