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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Obviously that is exactly what they want...and what they are battling to get.

    What a sad, loser group they are.
    To be specific the ‘losers’ are the House. Myself and others warned them about rushing the vote to impeach and sending an incomplete record and crime-less articles to the Senate. One didn’t need to be a prophet to predict the outcome. Pelosi by-passed ‘the bird in the hand’ censure vote and went for the impeachment bird in the bush. All to appease her radical flank. It was a historic miscalculation on her part and will probably cost her seat as Speaker or minority leader.

    You won’t like this part lol. The winner is the country. After this, future presidents [including those of your own party] should be safe from party-line impeachment votes. Had Democrats succeeded with this, the next impeachment wouldn’t take 25 years to get here. It would be more like 2-3 before the end of the decade. Abuse of power is too broad and ambiguous—and too easy for hyper-partisan House members to use to *contrive* articles of impeachment with.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    To be specific the ‘losers’ are the House. Myself and others warned them about rushing the vote to impeach and sending an incomplete record and crime-less articles to the Senate. One didn’t need to be a prophet to predict the outcome. Pelosi by-passed ‘the bird in the hand’ censure vote and went for the impeachment bird in the bush. All to appease her radical flank. It was a historic miscalculation on her part and will probably cost her seat as Speaker or minority leader.

    You won’t like this part lol. The winner is the country. After this, future presidents [including those of your own party] should be safe from party-line impeachment votes. Had Democrats succeeded with this, the next impeachment wouldn’t take 25 years to get here. It would be more like 2-3 before the end of the decade. Abuse of power is too broad and ambiguous—and too easy for hyper-partisan House members to use to *contrive* articles of impeachment with.
    Indeed

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    Imagine how big Trump will win with Ukraine and Russia in his corner?

    Next up China and Mexico

    Then we will cancel voting in California and New York

    Nothing you leftists can do about it really

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    I am already set up to vote multiple times in multiple states

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    If the President is acquitted in a trial where witnesses were banned then Autocracy has begun.
    Not the definition of an autocracy, dude. Redefinition fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    There will be no going back.
    Fine. The trial is over then.
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    Is that really what you fools want?
    Yup.
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    To win a battle but lose everything?
    What has been lost? Void argument fallacy.

    Are you going to make up disaster scenarios just like you do for the Church of Global Warming?

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    for the first time ever - the house voted to impeach down purely partisan lines

    so suck it up shit stains. the shit is all over you on this one

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    Hello Frank,

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Obviously that is exactly what they want...and what they are battling to get.

    What a sad, loser group they are.
    Selfish bullies like Trump.

    People who can't admit it when they are wrong.

    Hateful, spiteful people with a chip on their shoulder who want revenge.

    Peopled with messed up brains.

    Racists.

    Haters.

    People who want to 'shake up the system.'

    People who take pleasure in the misfortune of others.

    Cheaters.

    Misogynists.

    Xenophobes.

    Rich power junkies and wannabes.

    All of those people like Trump.

    Why should we expect anything but a travesty of justice.

    This cannot stand.

    We have to fix this.

    We all need to volunteer and campaign for Biden.

    We have to face it. None of the other candidates really stand a chance. Maybe Warren if she could get her numbers up.

    But Bernie? Love the guy. Polling barely in the lead, he will prolly take a few states. It won't matter. It will be a repeat of 2016 in the primaries. Nothing has changed. All Biden needs going into the convention is to be in the hunt. All the big money super delegates will be going for Biden. Case closed. He's the nominee. He is who we have to put up with for 4 years to get rid of Trump. Not only that, we have to make sure he gets in.

    I'm not lifting a finger until after the DNC.

    Then I'll volunteer at the local Biden campaign. Like everyone who really understands what is going on should.

    Not only for our country but for our planet and the future of all our kids and grandkids. We have to get rid of Trump to fix the climate. That can't wait. It has to be this year, this November. The end of Trump. Travesty Republican Unprincipled Misogynist President. Who got impeached for it, and got away with it. This time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Oh but you were fine with the House not letting Trump call witnesses?
    LOL. They don't want to mention THAT part!
    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Spare me your fucking faux indignation
    Better get extra popcorn! It's gonna be one hell of an election show this year!
    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    But yeah, win at any costs. We learned from you fucks. You created this mess now sit in your own shit and suck it bitch
    Nah. They'll just throw their shit. What animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Frank,



    Selfish bullies like Trump.

    People who can't admit it when they are wrong.

    Hateful, spiteful people with a chip on their shoulder who want revenge.

    Peopled with messed up brains.

    Racists.

    Haters.

    People who want to 'shake up the system.'

    People who take pleasure in the misfortune of others.

    Cheaters.

    Misogynists.

    Xenophobes.

    Rich power junkies and wannabes.

    All of those people like Trump.

    Why should we expect anything but a travesty of justice.

    This cannot stand.

    We have to fix this.

    We all need to volunteer and campaign for Biden.

    We have to face it. None of the other candidates really stand a chance. Maybe Warren if she could get her numbers up.

    But Bernie? Love the guy. Polling barely in the lead, he will prolly take a few states. It won't matter. It will be a repeat of 2016 in the primaries. Nothing has changed. All Biden needs going into the convention is to be in the hunt. All the big money super delegates will be going for Biden. Case closed. He's the nominee. He is who we have to put up with for 4 years to get rid of Trump. Not only that, we have to make sure he gets in.

    I'm not lifting a finger until after the DNC.

    Then I'll volunteer at the local Biden campaign. Like everyone who really understands what is going on should.

    Not only for our country but for our planet and the future of all our kids and grandkids. We have to get rid of Trump to fix the climate. That can't wait. It has to be this year, this November. The end of Trump. Travesty Republican Unprincipled Misogynist President. Who got impeached for it, and got away with it. This time.
    Repetition fallacy. YALIFNAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Somebody needs to run with a slogan of: 'Make America Fair Again.'
    dems are running with Fuck America Over Again.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    If the President is acquitted in a trial where witnesses were banned then Autocracy has begun.
    There will be no going back.
    Is that really what you fools want?
    To win a battle but lose everything?
    Horse shit. The Senate has total control on how the trial is conducted. The House had 17 witnesses and Trump had 0 . I laugh when the Des whine about having no witnesses. Where is their slam dunk case? We need to get back to doing what the Senate was designed to do make laws that better our lives. This whole impeachment thing was an attempt to weaken Trump and some Senators. It’s going to blow up in slowing and Schumer’s faces.
    Trump doesn't wear glasses because he already has 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    If the President is acquitted in a trial where witnesses were banned then Autocracy has begun.
    There will be no going back.
    Is that really what you fools want?
    To win a battle but lose everything?
    The house had 17-0 witness. You ignorant fuck! You said you already proved your case in the house, so why did you need more witnesses? fucking idiot
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    The dang House had 18 witnesses. Dimwits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    If the President is acquitted in a trial where witnesses were banned then Autocracy has begun.
    There will be no going back.
    Is that really what you fools want?
    To win a battle but lose everything?
    SEVENTEEN WITNESSES, ALL CALLED BY THE STALIN-O-CRATS, IS BEING CALLED "NO WITNESSES" BY THE CONGENITAL LIARS IN THE POLITBURO AND FAKE NEWS .
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The dang House had 18 witnesses. Dimwits!
    WHOSE TESTIMONY WAS PRESENTED IN THE SENATE.....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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