Earl (02-01-2020)
This is the mental gymnastics and pretzel logic Republicans have to attempt to justify their lack of integrity here
Noteworthy here is that tacit admission that Trump went way over the line - that it was not a perfect phone call. And that means Republicans are leaving the door open to punish future Democratic presidents who try to do what Trump did."Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office. ...
"... I will not vote to remove the President because doing so would inflict extraordinary and potentially irreparable damage to our already divided nation."
- Senator Marco Rubio, R-Florida
Earl (02-01-2020)
christiefan915 (02-01-2020), Frank Apisa (02-01-2020), PoliTalker (02-01-2020), ThatOwlWoman (02-01-2020)
The swing voters in the Senate have already said that since the Articles do not rise to the level of impeachment, witnesses or documents are not needed.
What a good point.
How can they have one without the other?
They can't say they are going to be completely political about the defense and then complain that the impeachment was politically motivated.
Essentially, what they are saying is: "You side was bad for doing that, but since you did it, then we can do the same thing and it's now magically no longer wrong."
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Earl (02-01-2020), USFREEDOM911 (02-01-2020)
Vote Red or you are brain dead.
A perfect call resulted in acquittal pens.
In my defense, I have acknowledged that Trump is not like Hitler in many respects. Trump is not nearly as intelligent as Hitler was; Trump was not willing to fight for his country as Hitler was; and Hitler was a dynamic speaker, while Trump has the speaking style of a not especially bright grammar school kid.
The only real similarities are that both are evil, crude, boorish, vindictive, totalitarian...and those kinds of things.
ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!
christiefan915 (02-01-2020)
Sticks and stones...lol
Trump has an Ivy League degree, is an author, a multibillionaire and the president of the greatest nation on earth and just cleaned the Democrats’ collective clocks...again.
Anyone want to compare resumes?
He has a beautiful, intelligent wife who speaks multiple languages and loving children.
What is there not to like?
Last edited by Earl; 02-01-2020 at 08:43 AM.
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USFREEDOM911 (02-01-2020)
Liar liar pants on fire.
"The House did ask Bolton to testify . But Bolton, who left his post in September, declined to do so at the White House’s directive. The White House successfully blocked a number of officials from testifying or producing documents relevant to the House’s investigation.
Bolton signaled that he would testify only if he were subpoenaed and if a court ruled that he should obey the subpoena over the White House’s instructions."
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Earl (02-01-2020)
Hello Phantasmal,
That's an interesting discussion. If Trump was to be removed, with the country so bitterly divided, it would be like throwing gasoline on a fire. Democrats didn't ask to be put into this situation, didn't ask for the timing. The President brought it on with his own abuse of power. Republicans like to boast about how orderly their gatherings are. If Trump were removed from office it would be hard to imagine Trump fans peacefully protesting that. Some of those people are downright deplorable.
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