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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I apologize for misinterpreting your posts, T. :0)
    not needed.
    I write more shorthand (terminology based) with you, because I know you under stand the complexities-
    hence my meanings might not always be spelled out.. It's all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    we "knew" but it froze our reaction.
    Putin only needed hours to deploy and annex, by the time we were sure, it was too late to do anything.

    I don't know Putin's mind on that-couldn't say, but it's not important anymore. INF are in Kaliningrad.
    And I'm sure we are deploying as we speak
    Not that it matters, but I don't believe the public narrative. I think the world's inteal agencies had lots of warning. A contingency plan should have been in place, for instance, to destroy the Russian Navy ships in port, ... one by one until Putin withdrew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    There was no 'truth' to trading away Europe.

    That is what Trump is doing

    AS ALWAYS...FUCKING CLUELESS.




    Obama Cancels Missile Defense That Russia Opposed

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/w...a-opposed.html


    Obama abandons missile defence shield in Europe

    US president shelves scheme in Poland and Czech Republic, citing new intelligence on threat from Iran


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-barack-obama


    THEN CAME PRES.TRUMP:

    US Army terminal missile defense system is headed to Eastern Europe

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/201...astern-europe/


    AND OBAMA'S MANCRUSH] VLADIPOO, WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT TRUMP PLACING A THAAD SYSTEN IN HIS BACKYARD:


    Russia slams US Aegis Ashore missile deployment in Europe as direct breach of INF Treaty

    Donald Trump said earlier that the US would quit the INF Treaty


    https://tass.com/politics/1032585



    GET A FUCKING CLUE, WILL YOU???
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


    De Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post

    AS ALWAYS...FUCKING CLUELESS.
    Jimbo has lost his mind. He's a Fucking Globalist POS. He should leave the country he hates so fucking much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Not that it matters, but I don't believe the public narrative. I think the world's inteal agencies had lots of warning. A contingency plan should have been in place, for instance, to destroy the Russian Navy ships in port, ... one by one until Putin withdrew.
    no way. I do not want to war with Russia over Ukraine -bad enough we are arming this thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no way. I do not want to war with Russia over Ukraine -bad enough we are arming this thing
    Agreed. And the best way to avoid war is providing deterrents ... like the javelins.

    Ukraine can not defend itself alone against Russian military might.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no way. I do not want to war with Russia over Ukraine -bad enough we are arming this thing
    As you have noted, the Russian control of the Kersch Straits is the new paradigm. How do we prevent that powder keg from blowing up into a giant conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    As you have noted, the Russian control of the Kersch Straits is the new paradigm. How do we prevent that powder keg from blowing up into a giant conflict.
    we stay out of it. and it's not really a "powder keg".
    Ukraine was screwing around with Russian protocol - testing it. these 2 states are border states
    it's going to happen.

    what we should be doing is backing the "Normandy 4 talks" instead of funding the war
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...peace-process/

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    we stay out of it. and it's not really a "powder keg".
    Ukraine was screwing around with Russian protocol - testing it. these 2 states are border states
    it's going to happen.

    what we should be doing is backing the "Normandy 4 talks" instead of funding the war
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...peace-process/
    Since I called it a powder keg, obviously, I disagree :0). Russian protocol is Russian aggression.

    Vlad does not play nice, as he proved in Crimea. Vlad can not be trusted.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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