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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    that part was supposed to have been done in the house. now you're just fucked.
    I don't understand where this logic comes from, "that part was supposed to have been done in the House."

    If an individual is in on trial for an offense and in the course of the trial new evidence surfaces relevant to the charges you are telling us that that new evidence is inadmissible cause the prosecutor didn't bring it up during the Grand Jury hearings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I don't understand where this logic comes from, "that part was supposed to have been done in the House."

    If an individual is in on trial for an offense and in the course of the trial new evidence surfaces relevant to the charges you are telling us that that new evidence is inadmissible cause the prosecutor didn't bring it up during the Grand Jury hearings?
    what word don't you understand?

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    senators have to vote allow witnesses now because..... that part was supposed to have been done in the house.

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    The Republican facade is ever so fragile.

    Marsha Blackburn just parroted the 'If the House wanted witnesses then the House should have called them' nonsense.

    She all but dared the House to do it.

    So maybe the House will have to do just that.
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    Trumpies used a super-secret server to stash Trump criminal and damaging phone calls and messages. One that is not for that purpose at all. Trump's presidency is all about seeking loopholes and hiding places for what Trump does and how he operates. We are still operating on an abridged and controlled reporting of the Zelensky phone call. Set it free.
    How can Trump's lawyers say that the charges are not reasonable because they were not precisely first hand? There were plenty of testimonies given by highly placed officials like Yovanovich, Sondland and Vindman. But the next level up has been blocked by Trump and his minions.
    Now that Bolton seems to breaking down the wall Trump put up, the Trumpies on this board should be happy as hell. Trump will have his own people testify and prove what a fine and honest man he is.

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    If the phone call was so perfect why was it hidden on a secret server?

    Looks like a cover-up, smells like a cover-up, quacks like a cover-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    what word don't you understand?
    Not word, the whole thought, "that part was supposed to have been done in the House" meaning it can't be done now, why, where in any in any legal code does it say that relevant evidence can't be introduced into a trial because it wasn't shown earlier to a Grand Jury? Even common sense dictates that thought is incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Uh, testimony of various witnesses,
    Not evidence. Just more accusations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    statement of John Bolton,
    He was not involved in Ukraine.
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    tape of phone call itself,
    Which Trump released.
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    actions of the president after it became public.
    Such as?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I don't understand where this logic comes from, "that part was supposed to have been done in the House."
    The Constitution of the United States. It is not logic. It is what is.
    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    If an individual is in on trial for an offense and in the course of the trial new evidence surfaces relevant to the charges you are telling us that that new evidence is inadmissible cause the prosecutor didn't bring it up during the Grand Jury hearings?
    There are no Grand Jury hearings. What the hell are YOU talking about???

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The Republican facade is ever so fragile.

    Marsha Blackburn just parroted the 'If the House wanted witnesses then the House should have called them' nonsense.

    She all but dared the House to do it.

    So maybe the House will have to do just that.
    Too late for that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trumpies used a super-secret server to stash Trump criminal and damaging phone calls and messages. One that is not for that purpose at all. Trump's presidency is all about seeking loopholes and hiding places for what Trump does and how he operates. We are still operating on an abridged and controlled reporting of the Zelensky phone call. Set it free.
    How can Trump's lawyers say that the charges are not reasonable because they were not precisely first hand? There were plenty of testimonies given by highly placed officials like Yovanovich, Sondland and Vindman. But the next level up has been blocked by Trump and his minions.
    Now that Bolton seems to breaking down the wall Trump put up, the Trumpies on this board should be happy as hell. Trump will have his own people testify and prove what a fine and honest man he is.
    What super-secret server??? Bolton was not involved with anything to do with the Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If the phone call was so perfect why was it hidden on a secret server?

    Looks like a cover-up, smells like a cover-up, quacks like a cover-up.
    Gawd. What a paranoid conspiracy theory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not word, the whole thought, "that part was supposed to have been done in the House" meaning it can't be done now, why, where in any in any legal code does it say that relevant evidence can't be introduced into a trial because it wasn't shown earlier to a Grand Jury? Even common sense dictates that thought is incorrect
    What Grand Jury??? The Senate makes the rules for conducting the impeachment trial. No one else. They are the same rules (with very minor exceptions) that were used on the Clinton trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Right on.

    Show us the Server!

    Show us the Server!

    Show us the Server!
    He would but he is under audit, right after the taxes, hold your breath, any day now!!!
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Hi Bill,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    He would but he is under audit, right after the taxes, hold your breath, any day now!!!
    And as soon as Obama shows his long form. Oh, wait a minute. That already happened; and the goal posts moved again.
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