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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I’m disappointed old friend that you’re copping out on delivering evidence that you’re now proposing is plentiful. If it’s so plentiful Frank, you’d happily deliver it!
    Be disappointed then. The very strong evidence has been discussed to death. The people who refuse to see their Dear Leader in anything but a positive light refuse to see the truth. I am not going over it again. If that "disappoints" you...so be it.



    Again old friend I’m so sorry that you see the Trump economy, trade deals, protecting the border, standing up to China, standing up to the NATO cheaters to deliver their fair share for the defense of Europe and their sticking it up America’s ass during both Democrat and Republican administrations and the Trump lowest unemployment rates in decades for blacks, Latinos and women and Trumps getting thousands of Americans off of food stamps and their wages going up for the first time in many years as classless chaos and incompetence. I can’t understand that thinking Frank.
    I understand that you cannot, Robo. There were people like you in Germany during the 1930's who had that same problem with Hitler. I hope you do not find out how wrong you were the same way they found out how wrong they were.



    On the contrary Frank, there’s ZERO mandate for the Senate to produce any evidence. While the Senate has the option by a majority vote to allow further evidence, it’s still the prosecutors and or the defense to provide such evidence. Your rabid mad junkyard dog Democrat prosecutors will have to produce the evidence and witnesses they want and likewise for the Republican defense in accord with whatever the Senate agrees on by a majority vote. Otherwise Frank the SENATORS are simply the jury.
    Okay...if you think a trial should not have any evidence or witnesses...that is your right.

    We will see what the Senate ultimately decides.



    As I’ve told you Frank, the House didn’t do it because they didn’t want to take a trump Executive Privilege claim to court and risk being defeated in court or having the House case drag on through the election. They, (Nancy & her henchmen Schiff & Naddler) wanted get it into the Senate at exactly the right time to tie up Bernie and Warren in the Senate and keep them off of the campaign trail and give Biden an open shot at the nomination and accuse the Senate Republicans of an attempted cover up and try to flip the Senate in the election with such a preposterous smear.
    If you want to think that what is happening here is not a trial, but rather political strategy on the part of the Democrats...fine with me (and probably with the Democrats also.)

    I think Trump is guilty of impeachable offenses...and I am delighted he is on trial. I do regret there are enough Senators who are sycophants and will almost certainly acquit him.



    It’s not up to the Chief Justice Frank! The Senate must vote in majority for more witnesses or no more witnesses. The only authority the Chief Justice has is to settle any disputes between the prosecution and the defense on the “relevance” of particular witnesses to the actual charges.
    Well...there are learned jurists who seem to be saying otherwise. But...if you suppose you know the law better than they...okay with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Please be honest. The administration prohibited his entire administration and anyone who was near it from testifying and providing documentation.
    No official claim in my recollection was ever made for Executive Privilege, nor did the House committees ever “subpoena” any administration witness or documents.

    That is the action of a guilty man. he does not want the truth to be known.
    There’s ZERO doubt in my mind that if Democrats truly believed any of that, they’d have burned the treads off of their shoes getting to the court to deliver their subpoenas. No such action ever happened. Instead the House committees delivered two preposterous articles of impeachment to the Speaker Of The House where she sat on them for a month where the court could have been deciding the delivery or no delivery of the witnesses and documents Democrats claimed they wanted.

    The witnesses they had established the case. Sondland, and Yovanovich were clear and convincing. The witnesses that were in the admin were prevented from doing their duty to the country.
    No witnesses presented by the House committees presented a dime’s worth of evidence to show where Trump committed any crime let along any high crime and misdemeanor.


    Do you think this is a game of hide and seek? Trump is hiding everything he can. The hope is he can't keep it up any longer. The country would be better off knowing the truth.
    What is it you’ve been brainwashed into believing Trump is hiding? He released the transcripts of the phone calls. Democrats are hiding the so-called whistle-blower When does Trump get to face his accuser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Be disappointed then. The very strong evidence has been discussed to death.
    I totally understand Frank why you avoid presenting any evidence that Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff , Jerry Naddler, CNN & MSNBC have infested your mind with old friend, it’s all bogus, weak lies having failed and been shown as fake news. Every accusation they’ve thrown at Trump produced ZERO evidence of the claims made.

    The people who refuse to see their Dear Leader in anything but a positive light refuse to see the truth. I am not going over it again. If that "disappoints" you...so be it.
    Truth requires evidence Frank! The people that refuse to present the evidence have ZERO truth! I am disappointed Frank that you’ve allowed the rabid mad junkyard dog liars invest your mind with absurd and unfounded hatred.


    I understand that you cannot, Robo. There were people like you in Germany during the 1930's who had that same problem with Hitler. I hope you do not find out how wrong you were the same way they found out how wrong they were.
    Hitler was a socialist Frank! Hitler’s political party was called the National “SOCIALIST” Party Frank! Hitler piled hundreds of government regulations on the German people Frank, Trump got rid of hundreds of regulations on the American people! Hitler imposed gun controls and confiscated the German people’s guns that weren’t members of the National “SOCIALIST” Party Frank! Hitler abolished free elections in Germany and declared himself Chancellor for life, Trump is a candidate for the second time for President in a FREE election Frank while your side is attempting to overturn the 2016 FREE election Frank! I’m so sorry old friend that you’ve allowed the forces of evil socialism infest your mind!


    Okay...if you think a trial should not have any evidence or witnesses...that is your right.

    We will see what the Senate ultimately decides.
    Your criminal lying side Frank has turned you into a purveyor of lies and inaccuracies! I never said any such thing as you insinuate. I’ve argued that in impeachments the House is solely responsible for declaring impeachments, providing witnesses and documents and making the case for impeachments. The Senate is solely responsible for hearing the House impeachment case and acting as the jury to decide innocence or guilt of the party impeached by the House.


    If you want to think that what is happening here is not a trial, but rather political strategy on the part of the Democrats...fine with me (and probably with the Democrats also.)

    I think Trump is guilty of impeachable offenses...and I am delighted he is on trial. I do regret there are enough Senators who are sycophants and will almost certainly acquit him.
    Impeachments Frank aren’t “trials” in the traditional scope and format of all other trials in America. Impeachments are a “SPECIAL” constitutional format for “SPECIAL” government constitutional authorities laid out by the Constitution and subjected to the “Political” rules and agreements by votes, by the two Houses of the Congress. The Chief Justice is simply there to see that the operation is conducted civilly and in accord with the rules of the Senate and to decide the validity and or relevancy of disputes between the parties contending.
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    There is no defense for Trump.

    That's why partisan Republicans are spending so much time attacking Democrats and Hunter Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There is no defense for Trump.

    That's why partisan Republicans are spending so much time attacking Democrats and Hunter Biden.
    And partisan libturds aren't attacking Trump and Republicans? Get your pathetic head out of your ass, you inbred communist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There is no defense for Trump.

    That's why partisan Republicans are spending so much time attacking Democrats and Hunter Biden.
    You don't have a TV & Fox News, huh? The Republican defense of the President is stunning and ripping the Democrat's Kabuki Theater show to threads!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I totally understand Frank why you avoid presenting any evidence that Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff , Jerry Naddler, CNN & MSNBC have infested your mind with old friend, it’s all bogus, weak lies having failed and been shown as fake news. Every accusation they’ve thrown at Trump produced ZERO evidence of the claims made.
    Obviously you DO NOT understand. But I have explained it twice...and I will leave it at that.



    Truth requires evidence Frank! The people that refuse to present the evidence have ZERO truth! I am disappointed Frank that you’ve allowed the rabid mad junkyard dog liars invest your mind with absurd and unfounded hatred.
    Oh, the irony!



    Hitler was a socialist Frank! Hitler’s political party was called the National “SOCIALIST” Party Frank! Hitler piled hundreds of government regulations on the German people Frank, Trump got rid of hundreds of regulations on the American people! Hitler imposed gun controls and confiscated the German people’s guns that weren’t members of the National “SOCIALIST” Party Frank! Hitler abolished free elections in Germany and declared himself Chancellor for life, Trump is a candidate for the second time for President in a FREE election Frank while your side is attempting to overturn the 2016 FREE election Frank! I’m so sorry old friend that you’ve allowed the forces of evil socialism infest your mind!
    Hitler was not a socialist...he was a fascist. The Nazi party did use "Socialist" in its full name...but you may not realize this, but Hitler lied almost as much as Trump.

    It was a ruse.

    The Nazi party was totally RIGHT WING.




    Your criminal lying side Frank has turned you into a purveyor of lies and inaccuracies! I never said any such thing as you insinuate. I’ve argued that in impeachments the House is solely responsible for declaring impeachments, providing witnesses and documents and making the case for impeachments. The Senate is solely responsible for hearing the House impeachment case and acting as the jury to decide innocence or guilt of the party impeached by the House.
    Okay...and if you are against having witnesses and evidence at the trial...that is your right.




    Impeachments Frank aren’t “trials” in the traditional scope and format of all other trials in America. Impeachments are a “SPECIAL” constitutional format for “SPECIAL” government constitutional authorities laid out by the Constitution and subjected to the “Political” rules and agreements by votes, by the two Houses of the Congress. The Chief Justice is simply there to see that the operation is conducted civilly and in accord with the rules of the Senate and to decide the validity and or relevancy of disputes between the parties contending.
    If you are against the Senate allowing witnesses and evidence at the trial of Trump...that is your right, Robo.
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