Trump who wanted his 4th KID ABORTED, speaks at anti-choice rally, 1st pres to ever

[Saudade]

I've never been invited to ONE or seen any invitation for any in my 27 years being an active Democrat.

Might be worth remembering PP was started by PHILANTHROPIC WHITE REPUBLICAN WOMAN, typical of her time. Charities to help the poor and less fortunate. She was appalled at all the immigrant women having baby after baby, losing many, and many dying in childbirth or from bad health. Her biggest FOE, I AM SURE, wasn't organized Democrats but ORGANIZED religion, Catholic in particular, and I'm SURE it wasn't limited to just that church.

If you're referring to Margaret Sanger, I haven't found anything that states what her political affiliation was. If she was Republican, that would have been at a time when Republicans were somewhat progressive socially compared to Democrats overall.

Sanger was somewhat of a eugenicist. Some of her views made practical sense, although others didn't age as well. Personally, I'm pro-choice, but I don't like how PP has become political. And it's not like PP is the only organization that serves the purpose of helping poor women receive help regarding health and reproductive matters.

[CFM]

I think this is the lowest anyone has sank on this forum!
I'd like to see just one Conservative call you out on being a disgusting piece of shit!

No, you continuing to do exactly what I said is the lowest anyone can get.

What's disgusting about stating facts?

[CFM]

CFM has it a new low!

Says the one that determined good or bad based on the skin color of the one he claims is doing something. You lower yourself each and every time you pucker up to black ass.

[Mason Michaels]

No, you continuing to do exactly what I said is the lowest anyone can get.

What's disgusting about stating facts?

CFM =scum

[Centerleftfl]

If you're referring to Margaret Sanger, I haven't found anything that states what her political affiliation was. If she was Republican, that would have been at a time when Republicans were somewhat progressive socially compared to Democrats overall.

Sanger was somewhat of a eugenicist. Some of her views made practical sense, although others didn't age as well. Personally, I'm pro-choice, but I don't like how PP has become political. And it's not like PP is the only organization that serves the purpose of helping poor women receive help regarding health and reproductive matters.

You mean like TEDDY ROOSEVELT? Yep. Eugenics of that time was practical so BABIES DIDN'T DIE coming out of poor mothers or mothers died giving birth to baby after baby. INSTEAD she decided to finance the development of the BIRTH CONTROL PILL. That only took another 45 years to become LEGAL!

[CFM]

You mean like TEDDY ROOSEVELT? Yep. Eugenics of that time was practical so BABIES DIDN'T DIE coming out of poor mothers or mothers died giving birth to baby after baby. INSTEAD she decided to finance the development of the BIRTH CONTROL PILL. That only took another 45 years to become LEGAL!

Nothing more than justification for being a baby killer.

[Saudade]

You mean like TEDDY ROOSEVELT? Yep. Eugenics of that time was practical so BABIES DIDN'T DIE coming out of poor mothers or mothers died giving birth to baby after baby. INSTEAD she decided to finance the development of the BIRTH CONTROL PILL. That only took another 45 years to become LEGAL!

Birth control and abortion are quite different.

[Centerleftfl]

Nothing more than justification for being a baby killer.

YALL used that to 'death'. It doesn't phase ANYONE anymore.

[CFM]

YALL used that to 'death'. It doesn't phase ANYONE anymore.

That's not surprising coming from someone that has so little consideration for human life. When what you support has murdered over 50 million innocent lives, you become immune to what you're doing.

If only your mother's abortion had been successful, we wouldn't be dealing with you now. Since she failed, why don't you finish the job yourself with a self inflicted, retroactive abortion?

[CFM]

Birth control and abortion are quite different.

Not to a baby killer that uses abortion as birth control.

[Centerleftfl]

Not to a baby killer that uses abortion as birth control.

Obtuse.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

...such sad desperation...

[CFM]

Obtuse.

I fully understand that over 90% of abortions are done solely because the woman that spread her legs doesn't like the result and wants to prevent the birth of what she created. Therefore, in those cases, the abortion is being used as birth control. It is you that fails to grasp that the two are the same.

[Nordberg]

Birth control and abortion are quite different.

Not in intent. The idea is to not have more kids that you cannot raise or afford.
Are you against masturbation? That is a potential kid being wasted. God gave you sperm to make babies, lots and lots of babies. Anything that slows down the production of babies is wrong. Every sperm is sacred.

[Saudade]

Not in intent. The idea is to not have more kids that you cannot raise or afford.
Are you against masturbation? That is a potential kid being wasted. God gave you sperm to make babies, lots and lots of babies. Anything that slows down the production of babies is wrong. Every sperm is sacred.

That's a strawman argument. The key difference between birth control and abortion is that birth control prevents the fertilization of an egg. This is why very few people argue against things like the pill. It is true that some religious fundamentalists are against using birth control, but they're a small group at this point. With abortion, there is the question of where life begins in a legal sense. That issue isn't present with birth control.

Most pro-choice people draw a line somewhere regarding when abortion should be limited. It's no different from how most pro-life people make exceptions for abortion under extreme circumstances.