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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump did not arm Ukraine. It was the House who voted for it and the Senate agreed. The House has the power of the purse. Trump just saw a chance to take advantage of something and did it.
    JUST KEEP ON MAKING UP BULLSHIT...EVERY OTHER JPP LEFTIST DOES...WHY NOT YOU???




    Trump approves sale of new arms to Ukraine amid escalated fighting


    President Donald Trump has approved the sale of more lethal arms to Ukraine as the country fights off Russian-backed fighters in its east -- despite the president’s recent overtures for cooperation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=51923454


    US announces sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine over Russian opposition


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=53450406



    Trump administration approves lethal arms sales to Ukraine





    Congress authorized such sales in 2014 in the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, but the Obama administration never authorized large commercial or government sales, a move widely seen as a de facto decision not to provide lethal weapons to the Ukraine military. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who co-sponsored the law, praised the Trump administration’s move.

    Another senior Trump administration official said that Trump personally approved the decision to allow the issuing of the license after being presented a decision memo by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. While there was never a formal ban on such weapons transfers, the decision was discussed internally as a lifting of the de facto Obama administration restrictions, the official said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...es-to-ukraine/








    TRUMP FUCKING MADE IT HAPPEN, DIPSHIT. OBAMA STOPPED IT.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    If you think 1984 was about the perils of small limited gov't, private enterprise, and citizen gun rights, ... you have lost your effing mind.
    I know damn well you don't read.

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    Right! Looks like Obama should have been impeached since he gave Ukraine nothing for military defense. And only blankets.

    The dim party has their heads so far up their ass right now! You can tell where one starts and one ends!
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I know damn well you don't read.
    Lame, Stoney.

    You do know they made two great movie versions of the book, right?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Lame, Stoney.

    You do know they made two great movie versions of the book, right?
    Ah, so that's how you know about it.

    So do you know the significance behind 2 + 2 = 5 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    JUST KEEP ON MAKING UP BULLSHIT...EVERY OTHER JPP LEFTIST DOES...WHY NOT YOU???




    Trump approves sale of new arms to Ukraine amid escalated fighting


    President Donald Trump has approved the sale of more lethal arms to Ukraine as the country fights off Russian-backed fighters in its east -- despite the president’s recent overtures for cooperation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=51923454


    US announces sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine over Russian opposition


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=53450406



    Trump administration approves lethal arms sales to Ukraine





    Congress authorized such sales in 2014 in the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, but the Obama administration never authorized large commercial or government sales, a move widely seen as a de facto decision not to provide lethal weapons to the Ukraine military. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who co-sponsored the law, praised the Trump administration’s move.

    Another senior Trump administration official said that Trump personally approved the decision to allow the issuing of the license after being presented a decision memo by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. While there was never a formal ban on such weapons transfers, the decision was discussed internally as a lifting of the de facto Obama administration restrictions, the official said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...es-to-ukraine/








    TRUMP FUCKING MADE IT HAPPEN, DIPSHIT. OBAMA STOPPED IT.
    Do you understand the difference between approving a bill the House passed and actually making a decision to arm them? Probably not.
    Obama did give them aid. He thought getting too involved might start a wider war.
    Trump made nothing happen,. The House passed the bill. Trump did not know where Ukraine was when he got into office. Trump came in with no world political knowledge and will leave the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Ah, so that's how you know about it.

    So do you know the significance behind 2 + 2 = 5 ?
    The book is short and easy to read.

    Yes, it's the "new math" being taught in our free public education system.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you understand the difference between approving a bill the House passed and actually making a decision to arm them? Probably not.
    Obama did give them aid. He thought getting too involved might start a wider war.
    Trump made nothing happen,. The House passed the bill. Trump did not know where Ukraine was when he got into office. Trump came in with no world political knowledge and will leave the same way.
    YEAH..OBAMA MADE THE DECISION NOT TO ARM...WHICH SEEMS TO ELUDE YOUR LIMIMTED MENTATION.


    TRUMP ALLOWED THE SALES OF LETHAL WEAPONS TO UKRAINE THAT PUTIN'S BITCH, "MORE FLEXIBILITY" OBAMA, DID NOT.


    READING COMP TROUBLES???
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The book is short and easy to read.

    Yes, it's the "new math" being taught in our free public education system.
    So you don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    An OP that sheds no light on the issue of the Senate trial.
    Not directly, but it adds some context.

    The truth is, nobody really gives a shit about Ukraine one way or another lol. Apart from some people at the state Department and some assorted war hawks and defense contractors. Millions of average voters, not so much.

    Yet they were ‘instructed’ that it was a grave ‘national Security issue’ for aid to be held up—to whatever extent it was held up.

    The whole thing has been a farce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Not directly, but it adds some context.

    The truth is, nobody really gives a shit about Ukraine one way or another lol. Apart from some people at the state Department and some assorted war hawks and defense contractors. Millions of average voters, not so much.

    Yet they were ‘instructed’ that it was a grave ‘national Security issue’ for aid to be held up—to whatever extent it was held up.

    The whole thing has been a farce.
    ^^^^^^^^ MY POINT ENTIRELY.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    So you don't know.
    I've just gave you an example of it.

    What's your interpretation?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I've just gave you an example of it.

    What's your interpretation?
    So you admit you never read 1984 and don't know what 2 + 2 = 5 was really about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    So you admit you never read 1984 and don't know what 2 + 2 = 5 was really about?
    Fake News.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Fake News.
    No, it was about the government deciding what reality is. If the government says 2 + 2 = 5, then that's what two and two equals. This is a defining trait of authoritarianism.
    This is what's happening in America now. Trump lies, the entire Republican party begrudgingly goes along with the lie, right-wing NPC cucks blindly accept the lie, and so the lie becomes the truth.

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