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    Default REMEMBER: Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine

    IF HOLDING AID FROM UKRAINE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS IS AN "AGGREGIOUS THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY" (even though it DID NOT EFFECT THEIR ACCESS to JAVELIN MISSILES)...what THE FUCK WAS THIS?

    OIUTRIGHT TREASON??? MORE OF OBAMA's KOWTOWING TO PUTIN...AT THE RISK OF OUR "NATIONAL SECURITY"...RIGHT STALIN-O-CRATS?

    OBAMA REFUSED ANY LETHAL AID TO HELP THE UKRAINIANS REPEL THE RUSSIAN INVADERS AT ALL...UNLIKE PRES. TRUMP....the STALIN-O-CRATS' CLAIMS JUST GET MORE AND MORE RIDICULOUS....





    FROM 2014...after the "More flexibility promise" :

    Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine




    Rich’s excellent column on Obama’s fecklessness in the face of Putin’s Ukraine aggression notes that the president has resisted not only causing real pain to Russia’s economy but providing the Ukrainian military with the weapons it needs to defend its sovereign territory and defeat Putin’s thugs. On the latter, Charles Krauthammer made similar observations here.

    Meanwhile, the Daily Beast’s Eli Lake reports that among the defensive assets our government has denied Ukraine is “radar jamming and detection equipment necessary to evade and counter [Russian] anti-aircraft systems.” Last month, when it became clear that Moscow was providing the anti-aircraft systems to the Russia-backed rebels, Kiev asked this equipment. Last week, one of those systems was used to shoot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, killing 298 people.


    I do not think the president’s opposition to arming Ukraine is explained by his intentional American decline, his stated desire that the conflict not escalate (as if Ukrainian weakness somehow discourages Putin’s aggression), or the risible suggestion—advanced by Obama’s former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton—that Russian operatives shooting planes out of the sky is Europe’s problem.

    We should be arming the Ukrainians not only because it is in our national interest to repel Putin’s ambitions, but also because we are the ones who disarmed the Ukrainians. Yet, that goes a long way toward explaining the president’s reluctance: as I’ve pointed out before, the American government official who was at the forefront of disarming Ukraine was none other than Senator Barack Obama. The Daily Mail had the report back in March:


    As a U.S. senator, Barack Obama won $48 million in federal funding to help Ukraine destroy thousands of tons of guns and ammunition – weapons which are now unavailable to the Ukrainian army as it faces down Russian President Vladimir Putin during his invasion of Crimea. In August 2005, just seven months after his swearing-in, Obama traveled to Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine with then-Indiana Republican Senator Dick Lugar, touring a conventional weapons site. The two met in Kiev with President Victor Yushchenko, making the case that an existing Cooperative Threat Reduction Program covering the destruction of nuclear weapons should be expanded to include artillery, small arms, anti-aircraft weapons, and conventional ammunition of all kinds. After a stopover in London, the senators returned to Washington and declared that the U.S. should devote funds to speed up the destruction of more than 400,000 small arms, 1,000 anti-aircraft missiles, and more than 15,000 tons of ammunition.

    A press release from then-Senator Lugar’s office included then-Senator Obama’s puerile proclamation that eliminating Ukraine’s stocks of conventional weapons would ensure “the safety of the Ukrainian people and people around the world, by keeping them out of conflicts around the world.” Rearming Ukraine now would underscore how wrong he was. That political embarrassment is a big reason why he refuses to do what needs to be done.


    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ew-c-mccarthy/




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    WHERE ARE ALL THE JPP LEFTNINNY DOOFI, DECRYING THE "GRAVE THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY" OBAMA FOMENTED???


    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Irrelevant, motion to strike granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Irrelevant, motion to strike granted.
    SO REFUSING TO ARM THE UKRAINE IS "IRRELEVANT" and NOT IMPORTANT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY, AS THE RUSSIANS INVADED, BUT HOLDING A FRACTION OF AID (AFER BEING THE POTUS WHO DID ARM THEM) IS A " GRAVE THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY?"


    AND , DON'T FORGET, THE OBAMISIOT SAID THAT UKRAINE WAS "SAFER" W/O ANY WEAPONS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES WITH...JUST LIKE PUTIN ORDERED HIM TO DO....

    YEAH...THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE !!!


    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    UNBELIEVABLE....THE STALIN-O-CRATS ARE ACTUALLY DECRYING WITHHOLDING A PORTION OF AID TEMPORARILY, WAS A "GRAVE RISK TO NATIONAL SECURITY"...WHILE HOPING NO ONE REMEMBERS THAT THEY RERFUSED TO GIVE UKRAINE ANY MILITAYR AID TO DEFEMD THEMSELVES AGAINST THE RUSSIANS, AFTER THEY STRIPPED UKRAINE OF ALL THEIR WEAPONS PRIOR TO THE INVASION.

    HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS. DO THEY REALLY THINK THAT THE DEFENSE TEAM WILL NOT REVEAL THE FACTS ????
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    An OP that sheds no light on the issue of the Senate trial.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    An OP that sheds no light on the issue of the Senate trial.
    CLEARLY ITS RELEVANCE IS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION....HAVE ONE OF THE GROWNUPS EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU:


    IF HOLDING AID FROM UKRAINE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS IS AN "AGGREGIOUS THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY" (even though it DID NOT EFFECT THEIR ACCESS to JAVELIN MISSILES)...what THE FUCK WAS THIS?

    OIUTRIGHT TREASON??? MORE OF OBAMA's KOWTOWING TO PUTIN...AT THE RISK OF OUR "NATIONAL SECURITY"...RIGHT STALIN-O-CRATS?

    OBAMA REFUSED ANY LETHAL AID TO HELP THE UKRAINIANS REPEL THE RUSSIAN INVADERS AT ALL...UNLIKE PRES. TRUMP....the STALIN-O-CRATS' CLAIMS JUST GET MORE AND MORE RIDICULOUS....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    This was addressed by both Kent and Yovanovitch in their testimonies.

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    Get back to us when you find evidence that Obama tried to get Ukraine to investigate McCain or Romney and dangled congress-approved aid over their heads as a reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    WHERE ARE ALL THE JPP LEFTNINNY DOOFI, DECRYING THE "GRAVE THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY" OBAMA FOMENTED???



    who is Obama...sounds Irish

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    If Jesus were a train conductor he'd run you over.

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    THREAD FAIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    This was addressed by both Kent and Yovanovitch in their testimonies.
    WTF...OH REALLY?


    HOW DID THEY EXPLAIN OBAMA DISARMING UKRAINE WAS "GOOD FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY"...KJUST IN TIME FOR RUSSIA TO INVADE THEM???
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    THREAD FAIL
    POST IDIOCY.

    STILL WAITING FOR THE LOCAL LEFTIDIOTS TO EXPLAIN HOW A TEMORARY HOLD ON AID TO UKRAINE = "MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY RISK"!!


    AND REFUSING TO ARM THEM AGAINST RUSSIA WAS NOT...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    POST IDIOCY.

    STILL WAITING FOR THE LOCAL LEFTIDIOTS TO EXPLAIN HOW A TEMORARY HOLD ON AID TO UKRAINE = "MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY RISK"!!


    AND REFUSING TO ARM THEM AGAINST RUSSIA WAS NOT...
    The reason it was a security risk is because it wasn't temporary in the normal sense. It wasn't like Trump decided to withhold the aid for a week. Trump turned the aid into part of a Quid Pro Quo. He put Zelensky in a position he didn't want to be in so he could get the aid. Thankfully, Trump got caught and had to release the aid.

    Obama gave Ukraine plenty of aid. The lie about how he only gave Ukraine blankets is another lie that gullible cucks fell for.

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