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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It is remarkable how many Trump fans cannot bring themselves to consider the evidence.

    They immediately pivot to something else, hopelessly mired in whataboutism.

    Time for some straight talk:

    When considering if Trump really did this crime against the USA of dropping aid to Ukraine to gain foreign help in the 2020 election, a standard Trump fan response is to attack Democrats ('They've been trying to impeach him from the start!') That's whataboutism.

    Or the other one is 'But the economy!' Sorry. More whataboutism.

    Without whataboutism, Trump fans have nothing.

    One thing they refuse to do is actually consider that Trump is really guilty of this thing.

    If they don't think it then it's not real?

    The Trump fan mantra: 'must not think the forbidden thoughts...'

    What Democrats have been doing since the 2016 election has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    What the economy is doing (besides being largely Obama's work) has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    What Hunter Biden did has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    It is illegal to seek or accept anything of value from a foreign country in an American election.

    Period.

    Trump did it. That's the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Isn’t that obvious by now lol?
    No. How does making Pence president "overturn the election"?

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    Hello Jarod,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Mike Pence, he does not brag about sexual assaulting women.
    Has been married only once to the same woman for 35 years.

    Voted for Jimmy Carter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It is remarkable how many Trump fans cannot bring themselves to consider the evidence.

    They immediately pivot to something else, hopelessly mired in whataboutism.

    Time for some straight talk:

    When considering if Trump really did this crime against the USA of dropping aid to Ukraine to gain foreign help in the 2020 election, a standard Trump fan response is to attack Democrats ('They've been trying to impeach him from the start!') That's whataboutism.

    Or the other one is 'But the economy!' Sorry. More whataboutism.

    Without whataboutism, Trump fans have nothing.

    One thing they refuse to do is actually consider that Trump is really guilty of this thing.

    If they don't think it then it's not real?

    The Trump fan mantra: 'must not think the forbidden thoughts...'

    What Democrats have been doing since the 2016 election has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    What the economy is doing (besides being largely Obama's work) has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    What Hunter Biden did has nothing to do with whether Trump committed this crime against America.

    It is illegal to seek or accept anything of value from a foreign country in an American election.

    Period.

    Trump did it. That's the crime.
    you do realize Obama and Biden held up a billion dollars in assistance to Ukraine for over 6 months Dec 2015 to June 2016, while making demands that they fire one of their prosecutors, who refused to investigate corruption.

    does the irony of that register with you?

    not very bright are you? but even you have to appreciate that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Is impeachment an effort to overturn the election?
    Impeachment is only the latest attempt, and overturning the election is more of a side benefit. The main purpose is to protect Obama, and cover up his treasonous behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Mike Pence, he does not brag about sexual assaulting women.
    Jared lie alert.
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Impeachment is only the latest attempt, and overturning the election is more of a side benefit. The main purpose is to protect Obama, and cover up his treasonous behavior.

    ahh, but that's coming.. patience grasshopper
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Jared lie alert.
    Are you saying Pence brags about sexual assault then? I’m confused why you think Jared is lying?

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    Nadler is explaining what "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means.

    What a waste of time.

    Trump fans don't want to know.

    They routinely substitute the simple word 'crime' for the phrase.

    And they never wonder why a longer phrase was used.

    Never wonder why the Constitution doesn't just say:

    "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of Crimes."

    As far as Trump fans are concerned that's what the Constitution does say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Impeachment is only the latest attempt, and overturning the election is more of a side benefit. The main purpose is to protect Obama, and cover up his treasonous behavior.
    That doesn’t even make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    [url]Is impeachment an effort to overturn the election?
    Democrats said it was during the Clinton impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ???......I know Trump won't be removed.......and I don't think any demmycrat will become president again in my life time......
    You have 0 creditability, welsher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Nadler is explaining what "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means.

    What a waste of time.

    Trump fans don't want to know.

    They routinely substitute the simple word 'crime' for the phrase.

    And they never wonder why a longer phrase was used.

    Never wonder why the Constitution doesn't just say:

    "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of Crimes."

    As far as Trump fans are concerned that's what the Constitution does say.
    yea like we need to have Nadler explain to us what words mean

    think for yourself sometimes, really, try it

    and until you start addressing anything someone offers you fro debate, you instead just soap box every post.
    makes you meaningless to us
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Jared lie alert.
    He does brag about sexually assaulting women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Nadler is explaining what "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means.

    What a waste of time.

    Trump fans don't want to know.

    They routinely substitute the simple word 'crime' for the phrase.

    And they never wonder why a longer phrase was used.

    Never wonder why the Constitution doesn't just say:

    "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of Crimes."

    As far as Trump fans are concerned that's what the Constitution does say.
    I like that it goes on record so the Republicans will be shamed for all of history.

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