Simple question for all the Trump defenders and apologists:

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False authority fallacy. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

And now for the facts;

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.axios.com/joe-hunter-bid...51759063c.html
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/tr...iden-in-china/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...s6a-story.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/fa...n-and-ukraine/
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact...ry?id=66194699
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/76350...tions-answered

Plenty more if you need them


You always know "nightingale" is done when he has to resort to his glossary of fallacies

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No. Biden was violating both the treaty between the U.S. and the Ukraine, and U.S. federal law. The EU could care less what prosecutor is in charge of what in the Ukraine. The investigation into Burisma was not dead. It was an active investigation when Biden committed the extortion.

The facts are always worth repeating

And now for the facts;

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.axios.com/joe-hunter-bid...51759063c.html
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/tr...iden-in-china/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...s6a-story.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/fa...n-and-ukraine/
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact...ry?id=66194699
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/76350...tions-answered

Next

[Into the Night]

If only you could find some proof, or even just a specific accusation, then you could start an investigation against him. Sadly(for you), you have no proof. Joe Biden is a boring family guy who took the train to work most of his life. Hunter Biden is a competent lawyer/international businessman who is good at rooting out corruption. Together they are both competent.

I guess you still want to keep fooling yourself!

I am happy with my life. I am reasonably successful in the most successful country ever. I do not want to risk anything with a "loose cannon" who changes positions mid sentence, and is willing to risk everything, every day, just to prove how supposedly great he is.

No one is risking everything. Extreme argument fallacy.

My question is how bad is your life that you want to risk America every day?

False dichotomy fallacy.

[Into the Night]

And now for the facts;

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.axios.com/joe-hunter-bid...51759063c.html
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-and-ukraine/
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/tr...iden-in-china/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...s6a-story.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/fa...n-and-ukraine/
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact...ry?id=66194699
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/76350...tions-answered

Plenty more if you need them


You always know "nightingale" is done when he has to resort to his glossary of fallacies

Not facts. Arguments. Please stop referring me to your pastors. False authority fallacies.

[Into the Night]

The facts are always worth repeating

And now for the facts;
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Argument by repetition fallacy.

[zappasguitar]

No. Biden was violating both the treaty between the U.S. and the Ukraine, and U.S. federal law. The EU could care less what prosecutor is in charge of what in the Ukraine. The investigation into Burisma was not dead. It was an active investigation when Biden committed the extortion.

The Burisma investigation was active when Biden made his statement?

Show us.

[zappasguitar]

Not facts. Arguments. Please stop referring me to your pastors. False authority fallacies.

Yes. FACTS.

Arguments that can be cross checked with other independent websites and news organizations become FACTS.

[PostmodernProphet]

Of course, you're referring to Schiff's near-verbatim reference to Trump's conversation.
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Trump: "We do a lot for Ukraine. but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine."

Schiff: "We've been very good to your country. Very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don't see much reciprocity here.".
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Trump: "I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn't do anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine."

Schiff: "I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are." Trump then said of the US-Ukraine relationship: "I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine."
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Trump: "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it….. There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

Schiff: "I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though. And I'm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent. Understand? Lots of it, on this and on that."

thanks for admitting what a terrible liar Schiff is.......

[domer76]

thanks for admitting what a terrible liar Schiff is.......

He quoted Trump almost word for word, idiot.

[christiefan915]

also i remember some black dood telling russia to wait till after the election since he would ahve more flexibility.

Red herring.

[Into the Night]

The Burisma investigation was active when Biden made his statement?

Show us.

No. Contextomy fallacy.

[Into the Night]

Yes. FACTS.

Arguments that can be cross checked with other independent websites and news organizations become FACTS.

Not facts. Arguments. Please stop referring me to your pastors. False authority fallacies.

[PostmodernProphet]

He quoted Trump almost word for word, idiot.

you mean except for the 95% of the words that were different.......go back to playing in the street you sad little child......

[Nordberg]

thanks for admitting what a terrible liar Schiff is.......

The Dems have developed a timeline and established relationships between the players. Trump lied about everything. That is a given. But the people he has on staff are covering up for him.
Now you can point out where Schiff lied.

[Flash]

When did Trump ask Zelensky to do him a favor and look into Joe Biden? That isn't in the transcript. What's with all the Adam Schiff lies?

Has Biden won the Democratic Party of the Jackass nomination? I don't think so. It's rather stupid and presumptuous to assume this is about 2020.

"The other thing, There's a lot of.talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so ifyou ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

And Zelensky agrees to investigate: "He or she (the new prosecutor) will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you-mentioned in this issue."

Zelensky again: "I also want to ensure you that we will be very serious about the case and will work on the investigation."