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    Default Happy Trump Impeachment Trial! May The Truth Come Out...

    The only way we are going to learn the real truth is if the people involved tell us what they know.

    That includes President Trump. Especially President Trump, the man who is on trial for abusing his power. He is keeping secrets from us. Secrets we deserve to know. He is the leader. We are the people. He serves us. He is nothing without us. We deserve the truth. That is what we are asking for in this impeachment trial. The truth.

    Bill Clinton testified on his own behalf at his impeachment trial. He took the oath. Got sworn in to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And he did.

    Bill Clinton faced up to the American people because the people wanted to hear the story straight from the source. Back then, people wanted to know the truth.

    Clinton knew the people wanted to hear the truth so Clinton manned up.

    Trump fans like to be lied to. They don't want to know the truth. They don't want President Trump to swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

    Trump fans don't want to hear from the key witnesses. They have zero interest in uncovering what has been covered up.

    There is a reason for that. They know deep down inside that Trump is dirty but they don't care, they want to block that out. Trump fans are fine with the cover-up. They are part of the cover-up.

    If you think President Trump should be protected from having to be a real leader and tell us what happened, then you are part of the cover-up. Trump is not a private citizen. He is our most prominent public official. Always tweeting everything he thinks we should hear. Except what we really want to hear, the truth. What kind of BS is that?

    Bill Clinton manned up.

    Donald Trump can't do that, won't do that. And his supporters are fine with that. They don't want to know what happened, don't want to know the truth.

    Donald Trump doesn't have it in him to man up.

    Prove me wrong.

    Go ahead.

    I dare you.

    I dare Donald Trump to man up.

    Make my day.
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    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The only way we are going to learn the real truth is if the people involved tell us what they know.

    That includes President Trump. Especially President Trump, the man who is on trial for abusing his power. He is keeping secrets from us. Secrets we deserve to know. He is the leader. We are the people. He serves us. He is nothing without us. We deserve the truth. That is what we are asking for in this impeachment trial. The truth.

    Bill Clinton testified on his own behalf at his impeachment trial. He took the oath. Got sworn in to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And he did.

    Bill Clinton faced up to the American people because the people wanted to hear the story straight from the source. Back then, people wanted to know the truth.

    Clinton knew the people wanted to hear the truth so Clinton manned up.

    Trump fans like to be lied to. They don't want to know the truth. They don't want President Trump to swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

    Trump fans don't want to hear from the key witnesses. They have zero interest in uncovering what has been covered up.

    There is a reason for that. They know deep down inside that Trump is dirty but they don't care, they want to block that out. Trump fans are fine with the cover-up. They are part of the cover-up.

    If you think President Trump should be protected from having to be a real leader and tell us what happened, then you are part of the cover-up. Trump is not a private citizen. He is our most prominent public official. Always tweeting everything he thinks we should hear. Except what we really want to hear, the truth. What kind of BS is that?

    Bill Clinton manned up.

    Donald Trump can't do that, won't do that. And his supporters are fine with that. They don't want to know what happened, don't want to know the truth.

    Donald Trump doesn't have it in him to man up.

    Prove me wrong.

    Go ahead.

    I dare you.

    I dare Donald Trump to man up.

    Make my day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Here...just embrace the show...throw a party https://thebelladonnacomedy.com/mart...y-b23882b814b7
    Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent

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    anyone thinking that this state of politics shitshow is going to reveal truth is too deluded to be taken seriously
    The war on crime, war on drugs, war on terror, and now the war on opiods.............there's a reason they call it a war. So you idiots will easily accept the collateral damage of innocents

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    We need to hear from individual one.

    He is our leader. His right to privacy ends when it comes to conducting his own business on our dime.

    He is charged with violating his office by working on his own campaign whne he was supposed to be representing us.

    Instead, he was representing only his own interests.

    That won't do.

    That's why he was impeached, and why he is on trial. A very public trial for our most public citizen.

    Man up, Trump.

    If you've got it in you.

    We are tired of the cover up.

    !!! Tell Us The Truth !!!



    !!! Man Up, Trump !!!



    !!! Tell Us The Truth !!!



    !!! Tell Us The Truth !!!
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    Lots of luck with that, Poli.

    Trump could not "tell the truth" nor "man up" under any circumstances.

    Anyone continuing to support him must be doing so from a hatred of our nation.
    Trumpůmore than just an ignorant, classless boor. He also is the worst president in American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process.
    Would you tell us exactly what is illegal and flawed by the Houses impeachment??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    anyone thinking that this state of politics shitshow is going to reveal truth is too deluded to be taken seriously
    Not only is trump on trial but every single republican Senator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Would you tell us exactly what is illegal and flawed by the Houses impeachment??
    Jenna Ellis: Trump impeachment trial – Here are four legal problems House Democrats h

    Jenna Ellis: Trump impeachment trial – Here are four legal problems House Democrats have to face
    foxnews.com

    “ 1. The Substance Problem — The Articles don’t identify any impeachable offense or even any crime

    Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution clearly and intentionally limits impeachment to instances of “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The two articles of impeachment do not allege any conduct that fits within that constitutional definition, or even any crime whatsoever. “Abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” are vague allegations and a newly invented theory from the Democrats — not an allegation that is a violation of any actual law.

    TRUMP TEAM CALLS 'FLIMSY' IMPEACHMENT 'DANGEROUS PERVERSION OF THE CONSTITUTION' IN LENGTHY FILING

    Trump’s brief notes that every prior presidential impeachment in U.S. history has been based on allegations of violations of existing law (specifically, criminal law). For example, though Clinton was ultimately not convicted in the Senate of an impeachable offense, that impeachment still alleged violations of existing federal criminal law — felonies. “Abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” are not criminal violations, just catchy phrasing that the Democrats are using to create the public perception of wrongdoing.

    2. The Process Problem — The Impeachment inquiry was irredeemably flawed

    House Democrats violated all precedent and due process while conducting their impeachment inquiry and their goal was never to ascertain the truth. Certain constitutional protections, including due process, are afforded to every defendant and the context of an impeachment and a trial is no different legally in terms of constitutional protections.

    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process.
    While the punishment for conviction in the context of a presidential impeachment is removal from office (unlike a regular criminal trial where the sentence structure is different), the fact that the penalty is unique for impeachment does not divest or remove any constitutional protections from a sitting president.

    Mitch McConnell reportedly considering 'kill switch' option for resolution setting impeachment trial's parametersVideo
    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process. If the House Democrats really wanted to ascertain the truth and fact-gather, they should have allowed minority witnesses and the president’s legal team to participate during the inquiry and not simply tried to meet their internal deadline for impeachment, and conducted their inquiry fairly.

    Malicious prosecution is seeking an outcome of conviction regardless of what the evidence shows and railroading the process. That’s exactly what the House Democrats are doing.

    3. The Evidence Problem — House Democrats have no evidence to support their claims

    The evidence in the House record shows President Trump didn’t condition security assistance or a presidential meeting on announcement of any investigations. Further, witnesses only provided their beliefs, interpretation, and speculation, and most were not even directly knowledgable of the July 25 call. The two people actually on the call—President Trump and Ukraine President Zelensky—both have affirmed there was no pressure or condition. In fact, Ukraine wasn’t even aware the aid was temporarily held, which was entirely unrelated to the phone call.

    Article II vests all executive authority in the president. This means that the Constitution gives the president sole authority to enforce all executive policy decisions, including foreign policy. While subordinates or Congress may or may not agree with these decisions, it is the president’s prerogative. The reason Trump’s legal team continues to refer to “overturning the 2016 election” is because the American people voted to elect President Trump, which means we, the voters, selected him to have and exercise the Constitution’s presidential executive authority.

    President Trump's legal team files impeachment trial brief ahead of noon deadlineVideo
    For the House to second-guess the will of the American people and impeach Trump for a policy decision they disagree with means they are trying to second-guess our choice for president.

    4. The Structure Problem — The Articles are structurally deficient and can only result in acquittal.

    In law, there is a prohibition against a charge that is “duplicitous”—that is, if it charges two or more acts or offenses in the same count.

    For example, a complaint against a defendant cannot charge only one count of speeding but allege the defendant sped in January and then again in July. Each of those two instances is separate and the evidence for each speeding allegation would have to be proven on its own.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Not only is trump on trial but every single republican Senator.
    Which Republican Senators are in the Articles...be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Jenna Ellis: Trump impeachment trial – Here are four legal problems House Democrats h

    Jenna Ellis: Trump impeachment trial – Here are four legal problems House Democrats have to face
    foxnews.com

    “ 1. The Substance Problem — The Articles don’t identify any impeachable offense or even any crime

    Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution clearly and intentionally limits impeachment to instances of “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The two articles of impeachment do not allege any conduct that fits within that constitutional definition, or even any crime whatsoever. “Abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” are vague allegations and a newly invented theory from the Democrats — not an allegation that is a violation of any actual law.

    TRUMP TEAM CALLS 'FLIMSY' IMPEACHMENT 'DANGEROUS PERVERSION OF THE CONSTITUTION' IN LENGTHY FILING

    Trump’s brief notes that every prior presidential impeachment in U.S. history has been based on allegations of violations of existing law (specifically, criminal law). For example, though Clinton was ultimately not convicted in the Senate of an impeachable offense, that impeachment still alleged violations of existing federal criminal law — felonies. “Abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” are not criminal violations, just catchy phrasing that the Democrats are using to create the public perception of wrongdoing.

    2. The Process Problem — The Impeachment inquiry was irredeemably flawed

    House Democrats violated all precedent and due process while conducting their impeachment inquiry and their goal was never to ascertain the truth. Certain constitutional protections, including due process, are afforded to every defendant and the context of an impeachment and a trial is no different legally in terms of constitutional protections.

    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process.
    While the punishment for conviction in the context of a presidential impeachment is removal from office (unlike a regular criminal trial where the sentence structure is different), the fact that the penalty is unique for impeachment does not divest or remove any constitutional protections from a sitting president.

    Mitch McConnell reportedly considering 'kill switch' option for resolution setting impeachment trial's parametersVideo
    It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process. If the House Democrats really wanted to ascertain the truth and fact-gather, they should have allowed minority witnesses and the president’s legal team to participate during the inquiry and not simply tried to meet their internal deadline for impeachment, and conducted their inquiry fairly.

    Malicious prosecution is seeking an outcome of conviction regardless of what the evidence shows and railroading the process. That’s exactly what the House Democrats are doing.

    3. The Evidence Problem — House Democrats have no evidence to support their claims

    The evidence in the House record shows President Trump didn’t condition security assistance or a presidential meeting on announcement of any investigations. Further, witnesses only provided their beliefs, interpretation, and speculation, and most were not even directly knowledgable of the July 25 call. The two people actually on the call—President Trump and Ukraine President Zelensky—both have affirmed there was no pressure or condition. In fact, Ukraine wasn’t even aware the aid was temporarily held, which was entirely unrelated to the phone call.

    Article II vests all executive authority in the president. This means that the Constitution gives the president sole authority to enforce all executive policy decisions, including foreign policy. While subordinates or Congress may or may not agree with these decisions, it is the president’s prerogative. The reason Trump’s legal team continues to refer to “overturning the 2016 election” is because the American people voted to elect President Trump, which means we, the voters, selected him to have and exercise the Constitution’s presidential executive authority.

    President Trump's legal team files impeachment trial brief ahead of noon deadlineVideo
    For the House to second-guess the will of the American people and impeach Trump for a policy decision they disagree with means they are trying to second-guess our choice for president.

    4. The Structure Problem — The Articles are structurally deficient and can only result in acquittal.

    In law, there is a prohibition against a charge that is “duplicitous”—that is, if it charges two or more acts or offenses in the same count.

    For example, a complaint against a defendant cannot charge only one count of speeding but allege the defendant sped in January and then again in July. Each of those two instances is separate and the evidence for each speeding allegation would have to be proven on its own.”
    If you believe this garbage, I have a bridge to sell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Which Republican Senators are in the Articles...be specific.
    7% of Americans want an extended number of witnesses to testify. Its the GOP who stand to suffer at the ballot box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    If you believe this garbage, I have a bridge to sell you.
    You own a bridge?

    Refute the article.

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