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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I think I get it now. Your desire for things like racial separatism are related to your statist impulses overall. You're ok with the government placing arbitrary limits on things like gun rights. I guess that's consistent with your other beliefs, but it's a good example of where we fundamentally differ.

    I'm against any restrictions on gun rights that don't have some undeniable imperative for public safety. Background checks make sense. Even limits on fully automatic weapons are ok, but when you start limiting semiauto weapons or magazine sizes and broadly define "assault weapons" to fit an agenda, then that's no longer about public safety.
    I don't think statist limitations should be arbitrary and I didn't say I agreed with these measures. I'm just saying that the Incels are wrong when they say the government, or, I don't know, the DEEP STATE, wants to ban guns.
    I do think that the only gun you need to defend yourself is a simple handgun, so it might be a good idea to ban things like bump-stocks and large magazines.

    When it comes to racial separation, I think the state should be involved as little as possible. We should not have laws that segregate people, but we also shouldn't have laws that force integration. I'd actually be something of a Libertarian if Libertarians weren't so stupid when it comes to economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Yeah, bolt action pistols and bolt action rifles. That's a ridiculous limit on what I can own.
    How so? You could easily defend yourself with those guns. The only reason people would need a machine gun would be to kill a large group of people.

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    What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I'd actually be something of a Libertarian if Libertarians weren't so stupid when it comes to economics.
    you most certainly are not a Libertarian, nor are you even close to one............none of your positions come close to the freedom state that Libertarians are for......and what the hell are you talking about with economics?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    How so? You could easily defend yourself with those guns. The only reason people would need a machine gun would be to kill a large group of people.
    which is why you want cops to have them?????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?
    i'm sure you didn't get a chance to see the group pictures because of the narrative that msnbc and cnn want to portray, but there were blacks carrying AR15s as well as women of all races carrying the same.......nobody shied away or freaked out in terror
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    i'm sure you didn't get a chance to see the group pictures because of the narrative that msnbc and cnn want to portray, but there were blacks carrying AR15s as well as women of all races carrying the same.......nobody shied away or freaked out in terror
    Were there 20,000 of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Were there 20,000 of them?
    do you need an official count to dispute so you can claim you're right or wrong?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?


    and remember this?

    PHOENIX — About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32457652/n.../#.XijeXchKjIU
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    which is why you want cops to have them?????
    Cops actually do have to be able to kill large groups of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Cops actually do have to be able to kill large groups of people.
    that you actually believe that is their job is not only disturbing, but brings in to question just what kind of country do you want to live in?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you most certainly are not a Libertarian, nor are you even close to one............none of your positions come close to the freedom state that Libertarians are for......and what the hell are you talking about with economics?
    I want the legalization of drugs, prostitution, and freedom of association. I'm against war. And I want most things to be left up to the states. I really agree with Libertarians on most things outside of their economics which are mostly based around jetpacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    that you actually believe that is their job is not only disturbing, but brings in to question just what kind of country do you want to live in?
    It's not their main job, but they do have to be able to do that in cases of emergency. If a pack of terrorists swarms a mall, the cops have to be able to take them all out. Cops have to be able to rescue hostages being held by large groups of people. There is a reason cops are allowed to do things the rest of us aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    https://apnews.com/2c997c92fa7acd394f7cbb89882d9b5b

    No violence
    No riots
    No mountains of debris

    Just citizens sending a clear message to our racist governor that the Bill of Rights is still the law if the land and will be adhered to in this commonwealth.
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    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I want the legalization of drugs, prostitution, and freedom of association. I'm against war. And I want most things to be left up to the states. I really agree with Libertarians on most things outside of their economics which are mostly based around jetpacks.
    you apparently don't agree with the 2nd Amendment rights either....
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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