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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I do not accept the premise underlying your question

    The problem is not Trump being a jerk.

    The problem is, by presidential standards, he is a pathological liar, very stupid, shockingly uniformed, and completely lacking the etiquette and temperament the office of the presidency calls for.
    What a load of bullshit, Johnson was far worse!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    He possibly could be. But if you are referring to Trump, then I would say 'No'.

    Why would Trump take the US out of the Paris Accord?
    Why would Trump take the US out of the Iran Nuke Deal?
    Why would Trump stab our most trusted ally in the Middle East, the Kurds, in the back?
    Why would Trump roll back 50 years of Environmental Protections?
    Why has Trump campaigned on a 'Us' and 'Them' theme of division?
    Why has Trump lied so many times, no one ever believes ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth?

    Trump is worthless as a President of the United States.
    Unemployment at record lows, the stock market at record highs, food stamp use is down, and people are keeping more of their money through tax cuts.

    Perhaps what existed under Obama is what you liked. To a lefty, dependency seems to be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I don't blame her either. However, don't you think that if you want your opinion to be considered that it should be based on actual facts rather than wishful thinking? Otherwise it's just more noise and bullshit. The gods know we already have more than our share of that.
    Stop being disingenuous. You know very well Obama hated cops and supported the domestic terror group, Black Lies Matter.

    He publicly cast blame on police officers before facts were in. "The police acted stupidly". He publicly supported BLM after they assassinated 5 cops in Dallas. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ests-police-m/

    Do you think people don't remember his toxicity in detail? Maybe not the millennials partying at the beach, but I do.

    You want to use the moniker Toxic? Well he's your Huckleberry, well earned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Stop being disingenuous. You know very well Obama hated cops and supported the domestic terror group, Black Lives Matter.
    Lies, but go ahead and believe as you will.
    Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” -- Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Own what you voted for. Stop living in denial.
    Sorry I don't live in the past!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    If a person is a privately and publicly a complete butt hole can that person be an effective president? If not why? Please be precise in your reasons pro or con.
    This is not saying trump supports fascism, just that he's not an effective and admirable figure even "if he makes the trains run on time."

    "Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time."

    That was the famous last excuse for Fascism, conveying the idea that while dictatorship might not be very nice, at least it got things done.
    #Not My President





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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    This is not saying trump supports fascism, just that he's not an effective and admirable figure even "if he makes the trains run on time."

    "Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time."

    That was the famous last excuse for Fascism, conveying the idea that while dictatorship might not be very nice, at least it got things done.
    Trump doesn't understand that he isn't a fascist dictator.He thinks there isn't any limit on the power of his office.
    He couldn't pass A high school government 101 class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Stop being disingenuous. You know very well Obama hated cops and supported the domestic terror group, Black Lies Matter.

    He publicly cast blame on police officers before facts were in. "The police acted stupidly". He publicly supported BLM after they assassinated 5 cops in Dallas. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ests-police-m/

    Do you think people don't remember his toxicity in detail? Maybe not the millennials partying at the beach, but I do.

    You want to use the moniker Toxic? Well he's your Huckleberry, well earned.
    BLM didn't assassinate five cops in Dallas, liar. A sniper with no ties to any group shot the cops during a BLM rally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    Trump doesn't understand that he isn't a fascist dictator.He thinks there'e isn't any limit on the power of his office.
    He couldn't pass A high school government 101 class.
    For sure. I forgot some of the things that were brought up in the impeachment hearing today, like trump saying he can do whatever he wants because he's president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    For sure. I forgot some of the things that were brought up in the impeachment hearing today, like trump saying he can do whatever he wants because he's president.
    He probably believes that.
    He's been doing whatever he wants for decades,why would he change now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    This is not saying trump supports fascism, just that he's not an effective and admirable figure even "if he makes the trains run on time."

    "Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time."

    That was the famous last excuse for Fascism, conveying the idea that while dictatorship might not be very nice, at least it got things done.
    just that he's not an effective and admirable figure even "if he makes the trains run on time."
    Just what I have been saying since day one. Trump is not a likeable person but he gets the job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    If a person is a privately and publicly a complete butt hole can that person be an effective president? If not why? Please be precise in your reasons pro or con.
    I think that your premise is that Trump is a butt hole. I think that he knows how to troll Democrats and make them behave dumber than they normally would. I don't see that as a character flaw at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    I think that your premise is that Trump is a butt hole. I think that he knows how to troll Democrats and make them behave dumber than they normally would. I don't see that as a character flaw at all.
    I don't see it that way. Trump has been an arrogant obnoxious ass hole his whole life. But that said he does know how to make money an the economy proves. I like his approach on our troops overseas. If countries want our presence they should pay the cost of keeping them there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    I don't see it that way. Trump has been an arrogant obnoxious ass hole his whole life. But that said he does know how to make money an the economy proves. I like his approach on our troops overseas. If countries want our presence they should pay the cost of keeping them there.
    We should also leave those countries that don’t want our presence. One must remember that the places we have bases are not because the countries want us there necessarily, but because of the strategic advantage it offers us, and we pay countries to allow us to remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    I don't see it that way. Trump has been an arrogant obnoxious ass hole his whole life. But that said he does know how to make money an the economy proves. I like his approach on our troops overseas. If countries want our presence they should pay the cost of keeping them there.
    I think he shows less of the brashness one would expect of a NYC contractor. So it depends on your perspective. That doesn't make him an asshole. It makes him effective.

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