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    Default Navy Aircraft Carrier to Be Named for Black Pearl Harbor Veteran

    Miller was working as a mess attendant on the battleship West Virginia the morning of Dec. 7, 1941, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. An alarm sounded, and as the ship drew heavy fire, Mr. Miller raced to assist the West Virginia’s fatally wounded commanding officer. He also fired a machine gun against enemy planes.

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    What a splendid idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Miller was working as a mess attendant on the battleship West Virginia the morning of Dec. 7, 1941, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. An alarm sounded, and as the ship drew heavy fire, Mr. Miller raced to assist the West Virginia’s fatally wounded commanding officer. He also fired a machine gun against enemy planes.

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    Which proves that heroism is color blind. I salute Mr. Miller!

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    Worth mentioning GUNO, what the sailor did was worthy of COURT MARTIAL. I don't know about all services but the NAVY at the time didn't allow skills/crafts/rates for black sailors in OPERATING GUNS!

    "Justice" DELAYED is "JUSTICE" DENIED. MOST of these stories don't have happy endings. The US MILITARY systematically withheld AWARDS and MEDALS from Negroes and JEWS throughout and AFTER the 2nd WW. Depending on the tenacity, guts, relentlessness, resources of the families left behind to go through the 'paperwork/records', letter writings, appeal after appeal and shaming of the services and/or their elected officials, these stories rarely turned out well.

    This was a fucking MIRACLE.

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    “There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve
    as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders
    ,” Eichmann’s letter pleaded. “I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.”
    Adolf Eichmann, 1961

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    but ‘terrifyingly normal'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Which proves that heroism is color blind. I salute Mr. Miller!

    Heroism is always colorblind. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT is unrelentingly subject to 'identity politics'. Especially if there is a piece of paper and someone has to sign 'his' name to it!

    And, I appreciate you saluting MR. MILLER!
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    “There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve
    as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders
    ,” Eichmann’s letter pleaded. “I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.”
    Adolf Eichmann, 1961

    Eichmann an ordinary, rather bland, bureaucrat, who in her words, was ‘neither perverted nor sadistic’,
    but ‘terrifyingly normal'.
    In other words,
    "The banality of evil"
    Hannah Arendt - 1963


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Worth mentioning GUNO, what the sailor did was worthy of COURT MARTIAL. I don't know about all services but the NAVY at the time didn't not allow skills/crafts/rates for black sailors to OPERATE GUNS!

    "Justice" DELAYED is "JUSTICE" DENIED. MOST of these stories don't have happy endings. The US MILITARY systematically withhold AWARDS and MEDALS from Negroes and JEWS through the 2nd WW. Depending on the tenacity, guts, relentlessness, resources of the families left behind to go through the 'paperwork/records', letter writings, appeal after appeal and shaming of the services and/or their elected officials, these stories rarely turned out well.

    This was a fucking MIRACLE.

    At the time "black sailors were not allowed to serve in combat positions." However December 7 1941 was a special day and all the rules went out the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    At the time "black sailors were not allowed to serve in combat positions." However December 7 1941 was a special day and all the rules went out the window.
    Not according to the 'expert' CBS was using in their story on this this AM. Having said that, I of course, presume no one as taking notes of sailors to 'report' THAT day. There was a fight to give him the NAVY medal he is wearing here. Everyone refused until ROOSEVELT did it--for POLITICS and because he earned it.


    “There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve
    as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders
    ,” Eichmann’s letter pleaded. “I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.”
    Adolf Eichmann, 1961

    Eichmann an ordinary, rather bland, bureaucrat, who in her words, was ‘neither perverted nor sadistic’,
    but ‘terrifyingly normal'.
    In other words,
    "The banality of evil"
    Hannah Arendt - 1963


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Not according to the 'expert' CBS was using in their story on this this AM. Having said that, I of course, presume no one as taking notes of sailors to 'report' THAT day. There was a fight to give him the NAVY medal he is wearing here. Everyone refused until ROOSEVELT did it--for POLITICS and because he earned it.


    Well you know what an "expert" is don't you? A has been drip.

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    I thought guno wanted all our older Americans to die? Why would he care if one of them received their medals?

    Thanks to ALL our veterans of that era (and all veterans in general), your sacrifices are worthy of more than just a medal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Well you know what an "expert" is don't you? A has been drip.
    When it comes to subject of RACE, I always err on the 'not allowed' 'not capable' 'not acknowledged' conclusion on each story as it comes up. It saves time!
    “There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve
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    "The banality of evil"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    When it comes to subject of RACE, I always err on the 'not allowed' 'not capable' 'not acknowledged' take on each story as it comes up. It saves time!
    Yeah, all racists do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I thought guno wanted all our older Americans to die? Why would he care if one of them received their medals?

    Thanks to ALL our veterans of that era (and all veterans in general), your sacrifices are worthy of more than just a medal.
    you will always be the sniveling military avoiding coward
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Yeah, all racists do.
    Is this ANOTHER version of the white man reverse discrimination WAIL?

    (I was gonna say whine but they have been growing in their victimhood this past couple of years)

    “There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Is this ANOTHER version of the white man reverse discrimination WAIL?

    (I was gonna say whine but they have been growing in their victimhood this past couple of years)

    No, rectum breath, I'm speaking of YOU! You're the racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Yeah, all racists do.
    What a stupid bit of logic, but this is you, RB 60. When it comes to white privilege and race, yes, I err on the side of race.
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