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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Nancy Reagan would call Trump deplorable.

    When asked about considering a vote for Trump, Nancy Reagan would just say no.
    Just vote the president out in November if you are unhappy....

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    President Reagan was ashamed that his son turned out to be a card carrying liberal.

    Who fucking cares what "Ron" thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    BULLSHIT. HE DISOWNED HIS FATHER IN THE 80's.

    MAKEUP SOME MORE FUCKING LIES.
    The only one lying is you.

    "Growing up, Ron Reagan Jr says, the two of them frequently argued about politics, especially when he was a teenager. But even through their disagreements, the pair remained very close, tied by the bonds of father and son."
    https://www.npr.org/2011/01/23/13308...-father-at-100


    You are going to have to provide a link to a reputable source that Ron jr. hated and disowned his father
    .I believe it is common knowledge they disagreed politically, and like many families, had a complicated relationship. But I do not think there is any question Ron Jr over the long run loved his father.

    More importantly, I cannot think of any other living person who knew Reagan as intimately as his son, and in a position to speak about him in this way

    It wouldn't even cross my mind to lie about my parents; to intentionally misrepresent what I believe they stood for. Lying about my parents is a line it would not even occur to me to cross. It wouldn't matter if we disagreed politically.

    It says more about conservative posters, it is revealing about the ethics of conservatives, that they would leap to the assumption and suggest that Ron Jr is lying about his father
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are going to have to provide a link to a reputable source that Ron jr. hated and disowned his father
    .I believe it is common knowledge they disagreed politically, and like many families, had a complicated relationship. But I do not think there is any question Ron Jr over the long run loved his father.

    More importantly, I cannot think of any other living person who knew Reagan as intimately as his son, and in a position to speak about him in this way

    It wouldn't even cross my mind to lie about my parents; to intentionally misrepresent what I believe they stood for. Lying about my parents is a line it would not even occur to me to cross. It wouldn't matter if we disagreed politically.

    It says more about conservative posters, it is revealing about the ethics of conservatives, that they would leap to the assumption and suggest that Ron Jr is lying about his father
    Excuse me.

    More importantly, I cannot think of any other living person who knew Reagan as intimately as his son, and in a position to speak about him in this way
    You are aware that president Reagan had 7 children? Thus the above is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Excuse me.



    You are aware that president Reagan had 7 children? Thus the above is incorrect.
    I know Reagan had more children. I voted for Reagan, supported him, and was well aware of his biography. Did they know their father better than Ron Jr ? If not, my statement stands, and is both reasonable and accurate

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    Reagan would have made sure Trump never would have been the candidate.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I know Reagan had more children. I voted for Reagan, supported him, and was well aware of his biography. Did they know their father better than Ron Jr ? If not, my statement stands, and is both reasonable and accurate
    I believe if you check Michael Reagan was closer to his father that Ron. But all the children were estranged at one time or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And he would save his other bodily function for what has become of the Democrats lol?
    He did not like Dems, yes, but I think he would have disliked Trump far more. So deplorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello signalmankenneth,



    Nobody would know better than Ron Reagan Jr.

    I remember Reagan. He had morals. He was sincere. I disagreed with a lot of his decisions, but he had widespread popularity. Far more popular than Trump*. When he got caught lying he admitted it. He apologized to the America people. And he never got impeached.
    It amazes me that some folks have such a positive impression of Reagan. He apologized? Wow! He did not apologize for the policies we are still paying the price for today.

    Reaganomics killed America's middle class
    https://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/rea...class_partner/
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    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    You are aware that president Reagan had 7 children? Thus the above is incorrect.
    I believe you are mistaken. At most, you can say Reagan had five children (including one adopted child). Christine died within a day of birth, so that drops it down to four children. Maureen and Michael(the adopted one) stayed with Reagan's first wife, so that drops it down to two. Both Patti and Ron do not like trump much.

    If you can name two other children, I would be interested to hear them. And I doubt you could claim that a baby that died within a day of birth knew Reagan's political thoughts intimately.

    trump distributed a claim that Reagan felt like trump was more presidential. The reality is Reagan did not seem to like trump much. I am unsure what sort of crazy person would claim about themselves that Reagan had said they were more presidential than he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    I believe if you check Michael Reagan was closer to his father that Ron. But all the children were estranged at one time or the other.
    It is possible one of his other children knew Reagan better than Ron Jr. But as the above post by Walt shows only Ron Jr and his sister Patti can plausibly have a claim of an intimate relationship with their father

    I think Ron Jr is providing an honest opinion that his father would have despised Trump

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    Hello Cinnabar,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It amazes me that some folks have such a positive impression of Reagan. He apologized? Wow! He did not apologize for the policies we are still paying the price for today.

    Reaganomics killed America's middle class
    https://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/rea...class_partner/
    He manned up when he got caught lying about the Iran Contra Scandal.

    Trump never manned up to anything.

    He doesn't even have it in him to man up and take the stand in his own defense.

    Like Clinton did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Cinnabar,



    He manned up when he got caught lying about the Iran Contra Scandal.

    Trump never manned up to anything.

    He doesn't even have it in him to man up and take the stand in his own defense.

    Like Clinton did!
    One cannot compare anyone to Trump because he is a living breathing sniffing snorting disease, so none of this matters. They did what any at least half way human would have done. Trumps action are not a legit barometer of normal behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I believe you are mistaken. At most, you can say Reagan had five children (including one adopted child). Christine died within a day of birth, so that drops it down to four children. Maureen and Michael(the adopted one) stayed with Reagan's first wife, so that drops it down to two. Both Patti and Ron do not like trump much.

    If you can name two other children, I would be interested to hear them. And I doubt you could claim that a baby that died within a day of birth knew Reagan's political thoughts intimately.

    trump distributed a claim that Reagan felt like trump was more presidential. The reality is Reagan did not seem to like trump much. I am unsure what sort of crazy person would claim about themselves that Reagan had said they were more presidential than he was.
    Wiki said 7 but like you I can only find 5. OK now that is out of the way just because Maureen and Michael lived with their mother Reagan and Wyman remained friends so I am sure he spent plenty of time with those two also. Both of Nancy's children were an embarrassment due to their liberal politics. Think about it you have two sons one you vehemently disagree with politically and the other you agree with politically, which will you tend to be closer to?

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