Officials want to clear a mile-long homeless camp on a Sonoma County bike trail. Some

[Truth Detector]

It turns out that Housing First saves money. You end up paying for housing for a short time, which is less expensive than dealing with the homeless people on the streets.

History says you are a lying fool.

[CFM]

I don't think we should do that! END THE FRAUD AND I'D BE HAPPY!

I believe that when you have necessary taxpayer funded programs like the IRS, Social Security, Medicare, Welfare etc, you have to fund them in a manor at which you can investigate them, police them, eliminate the fraud and abuse that gets out of control- just because the funds are not there to manage them properly.

That means you have announced who you think need to do it.

What makes you says those are necessary programs? Where does the Constitution authorize them?

[CFM]

Dude, you need to learn how to lighten up! LOL!

Why are you opposed to those earning it keeping it?

Why should a person that won't feed HIS kids expect others that aren't the parents to feed them?

[Adolf_Twitler]

Why are you opposed to those earning it keeping it?

Why should a person that won't feed HIS kids expect others that aren't the parents to feed them?

I leave what other people feel appropriate to what they can give to charities completely up to them without judgment of any kind.

I just know that welfare and food stamps in particular are way out of control, basically overwhelmed by fraud and abuse.

I am like you in that I want to see the fraud and abuse eliminated.

[Adolf_Twitler]

That means you have announced who you think need to do it.

What makes you says those are necessary programs? Where does the Constitution authorize them?

Oh come on, don't tell us you are a Constitutionalist now?

Because serious Constitutionalists are really concerned right now about Donald Trump- and you certainly don't seem to be worried about that!

[CFM]

I leave what other people feel appropriate to what they can give to charities completely up to them without judgment of any kind.

I just know that welfare and food stamps in particular are way out of control, basically overwhelmed by fraud and abuse.

I am like you in that I want to see the fraud and abuse eliminated.

It's not about charities. Welfare isn't charity.

You can't have fraud and abuse if programs like welfare and food stamps that shouldn't exist don't exist. That you still want those programs to exist proves you have determine who should be forced to pay for someone else's irresponsibility.

[CFM]

Oh come on, don't tell us you are a Constitutionalist now?

Because serious Constitutionalists are really concerned right now about Donald Trump- and you certainly don't seem to be worried about that!

Where does the Constitution authorize food stamps? Government mandated healthcare coverage?

[evince]

Officials want to clear a mile-long homeless camp on a Sonoma County bike trail. Some don't want to go

I get tired of public officials with their, out of sight and out of mind policies, making the homeless move?!!

If I was homeless, my main concern would be bathing and clean underwear to put on afterward?!! I take showers everyday, a habit I kept from the army?!!

Santa Rosa, California (CNN)The globs of peanut butter were evenly applied. But this was no sandwich.

Pest control workers were using the spread as bait as they installed rat traps -- 340 of them -- throughout the mile-long homeless encampment after infrared video from a sheriff's helicopter revealed a major rodent infestation.

"I think it's sad and overwhelming," said pest control technician Matt Dougherty of the conditions for more than 200 homeless residents. "We're here just to make it better for them."
The rat problem could hardly have been a surprise. Trash and human waste had been piling up for months along the Joe Rodota Trail, nestled behind neighborhoods in the heart of Northern California wine country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/18/us/sa...amp/index.html

I think it's a damn shame we even have homeless in this country?!! Coming up in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, I never did see any homeless people?!!

because of FDRs policies

SS was begun because of old people dying in the streets

[CFM]

because of FDRs policies

SS was begun because of old people dying in the streets

If you bleeding hearts cared as much for the homeless, etc. as you claimed, none of them would be in those situations.

Why do you refuse to personally help those for which you claim to care?

[evince]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB109520630433518093



Before Social Security, Most Americans Faced Very Bleak Retirement
By Cynthia CrossenStaff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
Updated Sept. 15, 2004 12:01 am ET


Getting old is rarely regarded as a happy prospect, but before Social Security, aging in America often meant penury and sometimes even the poorhouse.
When America was a nation of farmers, men and women who no longer could do hard physical labor frequently lived with their children and contributed to the domestic economy by babysitting, tending the garden, sewing or cooking. By 1920, however, when more Americans lived in cities than on farms, old people faced a bleaker future. Urban homes were smaller, and wages paid the rent..

[evince]

If you bleeding hearts cared as much for the homeless, etc. as you claimed, none of them would be in those situations.

Why do you refuse to personally help those for which you claim to care?

this level of evil you display is why we don't let sociopaths run anything

[Adolf_Twitler]

It's not about charities. Welfare isn't charity.

You can't have fraud and abuse if programs like welfare and food stamps that shouldn't exist don't exist. That you still want those programs to exist proves you have determine who should be forced to pay for someone else's irresponsibility.

Yep, that's where we draw the line dude!

I have always been a giving person, and I have always paid my fair share of taxes- BUT IF I AM GOING TO PAY TAXES- I SHOULD HAVE SOME SAY SO WHERE THOSE TAX DOLLARS ARE SPENT!

YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO PAYS TAXES, NOR SHOULD YOU GET TO DECIDE WHERE EVERY DOLLAR GOES OR DOESN'T GO- AND NEITHER SHOULD I!

[CFM]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB109520630433518093



Before Social Security, Most Americans Faced Very Bleak Retirement
By Cynthia CrossenStaff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
Updated Sept. 15, 2004 12:01 am ET


Getting old is rarely regarded as a happy prospect, but before Social Security, aging in America often meant penury and sometimes even the poorhouse.
When America was a nation of farmers, men and women who no longer could do hard physical labor frequently lived with their children and contributed to the domestic economy by babysitting, tending the garden, sewing or cooking. By 1920, however, when more Americans lived in cities than on farms, old people faced a bleaker future. Urban homes were smaller, and wages paid the rent..

Not a valid reason to create such a system.

[CFM]

Yep, that's where we draw the line dude!

I have always been a giving person, and I have always paid my fair share of taxes- BUT IF I AM GOING TO PAY TAXES- I SHOULD HAVE SOME SAY SO WHERE THOSE TAX DOLLARS ARE SPENT!

YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO PAYS TAXES, NOR SHOULD YOU GET TO DECIDE WHERE EVERY DOLLAR GOES OR DOESN'T GO- AND NEITHER SHOULD I!

Yet while you want to decide where your tax dollars go, you want to decide where mine should go.

The sad part is those that don't pay the taxes that fund the programs you support existing get to vote for those that determine where that money goes. Why should those not contributing to the pot get to determine how the pot is spent?

Those programs do nothing but create dependency. Why do you support dependency?

[evince]

Not a valid reason to create such a system.

only a thing a sociopath would claim