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    Quote Originally Posted by FastLane View Post
    No one knows because the crappy Iran nuke deal didn’t have verification and hat was worth a SHIT

    You are a liar and a moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Isn't it comforting to know that the nuclear inspectors know more than you do?
    The Trump crime syndicate is on overdrive. Every screwed-up thing he's done is being twisted to make it the very best thing ever done and only a stable genus could have accomplished it. hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    What the IAEA doesn't know — or want to know — about Iran’s nuclear program

    Though it is charged with monitoring Iran’s compliance with the nuclear accord, at least twice the IAEA has acknowledged it was not verifying compliance. In September 2017, Amano said the IAEA did not have the tools to verify items listed in Section T of the accord, governing “activities which could contribute to the development of a nuclear explosive device.” David Albright, president of the nonpartisan Institute of Science and International Security and a former weapons inspector, said the statement was an admission that “the deal is not fully implemented.”

    In an analysis of the final IAEA report on the past military dimensions of Iran’s nuclear program, Albright observed that, “Iran did not provide the IAEA with anywhere near a full declaration about its past nuclear weapons related activities, and it did not provide the kind of transparency and cooperation required for the IAEA to conclude its investigation.”

    This effectively meant the nuclear watchdog was unable to explain in full Iran’s nuclear weapons activities, including verification that Iran’s nuclear program had been completely dismantled.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...uclear-program
    Are we now going back to the days of GW Bush where your kind guaranteed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. We killed hundreds of thousand of civilians, all for nothing. There never were WMD's and there aren't on the part of Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Are we now going back to the days of GW Bush where your kind guaranteed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. We killed hundreds of thousand of civilians, all for nothing. There never were WMD's and there aren't on the part of Iran.
    All the Dims lied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    All the Dims lied?
    No Bush lied to everyone, just like you are doing. get back to me when you have proof that Iran violated the nuclear agreement, not som guy writing an opinion piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    No Bush lied to everyone,
    this was BEFORE Bush

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    this was BEFORE Bush

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
    Now that proves beyond a doubt that Iran has nuclear weapons. My dear, you are a fucking idiot.

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    "Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."

    -- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    "Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."

    -- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002
    ^Classic deflection when you’ve been called on your bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    ^Classic deflection when you’ve been called on your bullshit
    nope...they ALL said he had WMDs


    "Together, we must confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons and the outlaw states, terrorists, and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."

    President Clinton
    State of the Union address
    January 27, 1998



    Oh I see, it was only a lie when a Republican said the same thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    nope...they ALL said he had WMDs


    "Together, we must confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons and the outlaw states, terrorists, and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."

    President Clinton
    State of the Union address
    January 27, 1998



    Oh I see, it wasn't a lie till a Republican said the same thing!
    And Clinton invaded Iraq after weapons inspectors went in and found nothing? Do tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And Clinton invaded Iraq after weapons inspectors went in and found nothing? Do tell.
    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree that Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) – Congressional Record, October 9, 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree that Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) – Congressional Record, October 9, 2002
    Here is the BIG difference my dear. In 2002 and 2003 nuclear inspectors went into Iraq and after months of investigation said they found no evidence of WMD's. Bush disregarded this and invaded anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree that Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) – Congressional Record, October 9, 2002
    U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix faults Bush administration for lack of "critical thinking" in Iraq

    "There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction," said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations' chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003; from 1981 to 1997 he headed the International Atomic Energy Agency. "We went to sites [in Iraq] given to us by intelligence, and only in three cases did we find something" - a stash of nuclear documents, some Vulcan boosters, and several empty warheads for chemical weapons. More inspections were required to determine whether these findings were the "tip of the iceberg" or simply fragments remaining from that deadly iceberg's past destruction, Blix said he told the United Nations Security Council. However, his work in Iraq was cut short when the United States and the United Kingdom took disarmament into their own hands in March of last year.

    Blix accused U.S. President George W. Bush and U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair of acting not in bad faith, but with a severe lack of "critical thinking." The United States and Britain failed to examine the sources of their primary intelligence

    https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/.../18_blix.shtml
    Dubya pulled the inspectors out and then illegally invaded a sovereign nation based on lies and that is the bottom line so I have no idea what you are trying to push.
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    trump lives in a fantasy world where he will get a better deal than Obama had. By breaking the deal, he forced anyone willing to make a deal to be marginalized, and then he killed the last pragmatic (but evil) person in command. There is no one left to deal with.

    If trump had demanded a renegotiation, he might have been able to work something out. But now no one trusts him.

    So do we go to war with Iran? trump has called off more strikes than he has allowed to be completed. I doubt he has the guts to lose tens of thousands of Americans in a war with Iran, and I am grateful for that small miracle.

    So we just need to learn to live with a nuclear armed Iran. Thank you trump.

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