Trump Is To Blame For Innocent Airliner Deaths And Trashed Credibility Of USA.

[PoliTalker]

He never should have gone back on our word by pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal.

You don't prevent somebody from building nukes by forcing them to do it.

And you don't build national credibility by going back on your word.

[PoliTalker]

He got those people killed.

[Earl]

Horse mierda.

If the bloody terrorist, Soleimani, had not been murdering Americans, no response by America.

America will always respond to these fanatical barbarians.

[Micawber]

It is similar to the economic sanctions against NK. Crippling sanctions do not seem to do the trick. The isolate, create suffering, create hatred and resentment
and have adverse consequences to the US.

[PoliTalker]

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[Earl]

It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

Kathleen Parker
Columnist
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST

"It may be tempting to blame President Trump for the downed passenger jet in Iran this week, but a linear conclusion it is not.

At the least, such a judgment is premature and rigged with the politics of emotion.

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who sits on both the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, essentially said the president was at fault for the downing of the plane, while media reports from Canada, which lost at least 63 countrymen in the disaster, featured mourners pointing fingers at the United States.

Officials from the United States, Britain and Canada have all said that intelligence reports strongly suggest that the airliner was hit by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. Iran called that assessment a “big lie,” instead blaming technical issues.

During an interview on Thursday on CNN, Speier insisted that the disaster was “collateral damage” from Trump’s “provocative” actions toward Iran. When pressed during another CNN interview on Friday, she said that, while she wasn’t placing blame on Trump specifically for Iran’s apparent shoot-down of the plane, “it all emanates from the killing of [Maj. Gen Qasem] Soleimani” ordered by Trump. Speier added that, in the wake of the airstrike that targeted the Quds Force commander, Iran is “providing vengeance . . . to the United States,” which, though useful to the narrative dispensary, isn’t supported by logic in the case of the airliner. Never mind the worrisome possibility that Trump’s aphasia-like means of expression may be a contagious tic.

Were Trump a more trustworthy president — and his foreign policy more than just a “series of impulses,” as my colleague Fareed Zakaria so aptly put it recently — then people might be more inclined to wait out an investigation. In times of shock and grief, we humans quickly seek to assign blame, if only in part to designate a target for the anger that follows.

But, even considering Trump’s dubious foreign policy record and the Soleimani assassination, laying even partial blame on the U.S. president for a crime (or accident) that Iran apparently committed doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of fairness or logic.

Consider: Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 took off from Tehran with 82 Iranians on board. By what strain of logic would killing so many of one’s own citizens hurt another nation? No doubt, Iran would love to “provide vengeance,” but Iranian officials announced early on that they would seek reprisal against the United States by striking military targets. Thus, this week, just hours before the airliner exploded midair, Iran fired more than a dozen short-range ballistic missiles at Iraqi military bases that housed U.S. troops."
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Only the Democrat Socialist apologists for a terrorist were blaming President Trump.

[Darth Omar]

It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

Kathleen Parker
Columnist
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST

"It may be tempting to blame President Trump for the downed passenger jet in Iran this week, but a linear conclusion it is not.

At the least, such a judgment is premature and rigged with the politics of emotion.

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who sits on both the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, essentially said the president was at fault for the downing of the plane, while media reports from Canada, which lost at least 63 countrymen in the disaster, featured mourners pointing fingers at the United States.

Officials from the United States, Britain and Canada have all said that intelligence reports strongly suggest that the airliner was hit by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. Iran called that assessment a “big lie,” instead blaming technical issues.

During an interview on Thursday on CNN, Speier insisted that the disaster was “collateral damage” from Trump’s “provocative” actions toward Iran. When pressed during another CNN interview on Friday, she said that, while she wasn’t placing blame on Trump specifically for Iran’s apparent shoot-down of the plane, “it all emanates from the killing of [Maj. Gen Qasem] Soleimani” ordered by Trump. Speier added that, in the wake of the airstrike that targeted the Quds Force commander, Iran is “providing vengeance . . . to the United States,” which, though useful to the narrative dispensary, isn’t supported by logic in the case of the airliner. Never mind the worrisome possibility that Trump’s aphasia-like means of expression may be a contagious tic.

Were Trump a more trustworthy president — and his foreign policy more than just a “series of impulses,” as my colleague Fareed Zakaria so aptly put it recently — then people might be more inclined to wait out an investigation. In times of shock and grief, we humans quickly seek to assign blame, if only in part to designate a target for the anger that follows.

But, even considering Trump’s dubious foreign policy record and the Soleimani assassination, laying even partial blame on the U.S. president for a crime (or accident) that Iran apparently committed doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of fairness or logic.

Consider: Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 took off from Tehran with 82 Iranians on board. By what strain of logic would killing so many of one’s own citizens hurt another nation? No doubt, Iran would love to “provide vengeance,” but Iranian officials announced early on that they would seek reprisal against the United States by striking military targets. Thus, this week, just hours before the airliner exploded midair, Iran fired more than a dozen short-range ballistic missiles at Iraqi military bases that housed U.S. troops."
wapo.com


Only the Democrat Socialist apologists for a terrorist were blaming President Trump.

Trump has a ‘dubious foreign policy record’ lol?

It’s a shame that it took almost 20 years to finally get one.

[PoliTalker]

This thread was inevitable.

Somebody had to come out and say it.

Trump got those people killed.

[Darth Omar]

He got those people killed.

No he didn’t.

[Micawber]

This thread was inevitable.

Somebody had to come out and say it.

Trump got those people killed.

Try as I might, I can't not say it!

[Earl]

Trump has a ‘dubious foreign policy record’ lol?

It’s a shame that it took almost 20 years to finally get one.

Precisely.

[TOP]

This thread was inevitable.

Somebody had to come out and say it.

Trump got those people killed.

Such hate....how sad you're unable to control it....

[Earl]

Otra vez.

It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

Kathleen Parker
Columnist
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST

"It may be tempting to blame President Trump for the downed passenger jet in Iran this week, but a linear conclusion it is not.

At the least, such a judgment is premature and rigged with the politics of emotion.

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who sits on both the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, essentially said the president was at fault for the downing of the plane, while media reports from Canada, which lost at least 63 countrymen in the disaster, featured mourners pointing fingers at the United States.

Officials from the United States, Britain and Canada have all said that intelligence reports strongly suggest that the airliner was hit by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. Iran called that assessment a “big lie,” instead blaming technical issues.

During an interview on Thursday on CNN, Speier insisted that the disaster was “collateral damage” from Trump’s “provocative” actions toward Iran. When pressed during another CNN interview on Friday, she said that, while she wasn’t placing blame on Trump specifically for Iran’s apparent shoot-down of the plane, “it all emanates from the killing of [Maj. Gen Qasem] Soleimani” ordered by Trump. Speier added that, in the wake of the airstrike that targeted the Quds Force commander, Iran is “providing vengeance . . . to the United States,” which, though useful to the narrative dispensary, isn’t supported by logic in the case of the airliner. Never mind the worrisome possibility that Trump’s aphasia-like means of expression may be a contagious tic.

Were Trump a more trustworthy president — and his foreign policy more than just a “series of impulses,” as my colleague Fareed Zakaria so aptly put it recently — then people might be more inclined to wait out an investigation. In times of shock and grief, we humans quickly seek to assign blame, if only in part to designate a target for the anger that follows.

But, even considering Trump’s dubious foreign policy record and the Soleimani assassination, laying even partial blame on the U.S. president for a crime (or accident) that Iran apparently committed doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of fairness or logic.

Consider: Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 took off from Tehran with 82 Iranians on board. By what strain of logic would killing so many of one’s own citizens hurt another nation? No doubt, Iran would love to “provide vengeance,” but Iranian officials announced early on that they would seek reprisal against the United States by striking military targets. Thus, this week, just hours before the airliner exploded midair, Iran fired more than a dozen short-range ballistic missiles at Iraqi military bases that housed U.S. troops."
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Only the Democrat Socialist apologists for a terrorist were blaming President Trump.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

The trouble is that the likes of Trump have very selective historical memories. Everything goes back to the overthrow of democracy by the Americans (because Mossadeqh was going to nationalise the oil industry, and the oil companies called up their dogs). Many, many people hated the Shah's dictatorship, but the only possible alternative at the time was the Mosque, and the only thing that has kept the clerical regime in being is American hatred. The murder of General Soleimani was an act of unutterable stupidity by a senile fool, as was the withdrawal from the nuclear deal. Clearly the Ukrainian plane would never have been shot down but for the crisis the fool introduced, and if the fatman 'wins' now, the victory will be paid for in blood over a very long time. You'd think that, with all those ex-Irish people, the US would have learned this!

[Micawber]

He never should have gone back on our word by pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal.

You don't prevent somebody from building nukes by forcing them to do it.

And you don't build national credibility by going back on your word.

Yes, now we have the burden of arguing there will never be another Trump every time we try and make an agreement with a foreign country.
There is a cost to that. Our terms will diminish in each next delicate or complex agreement or treaty because our track record on keeping or word will be a negotiating point for them on the bullet list
which will be paid for in dollars or adverse terms.

Why are most people so short sighted?