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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Missing the point, Trump asked a foreign nation to get involved in our elections,
    That is an outright lie that has been exposed as a lie over and over again. Why do you shrill, lying partisan hacks continue to bloviate it? I don't think you can post without lying your dumb ass off.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    ...the Democrats were in a hurry in the House because they saw an unchecked Trump asking other entities to become a participants in the 2020 elections, Trump does have autocratic buddies out there more than willing to appease him for favors
    This is nothing more than a massive pile of stupid and lie filled bull shit, you shrill, lying partisan hack. I don't think you can post without lying your dumb ass off.

    There was no need to rush this without all the evidence. In fact, we heard over and over and over again from liars like Nadler, Pelosi and Schiff that the evidence is OVERWHELMING. Now they demand MORE? Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    When the House was finished, everyone saw from his own admission that Mitch was going to railroad the articles thru rhe Senate in a sham trial, so Pelosi saw it best to hold the articles to draw attention to Mitch's designs, it worked, currently the majority of Americans feel witnesses need to be called
    I am always amused when dishonest, lying, shrill partisan hacks like you whine about shams while supporting the massive HOAX Pelosi, Schiff and Pelosi are trying to perpetrate in the House with their impeachment.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    But ultimately, as I noted before, Pelosi isn't after a guilty verdict in the Senate, everyone knows that ain't happening even if Trump did shoot someone on 5th Avenue, she is playing to the jury of public opinion, to ahow the Senate "trial" for what it is, Mitch is helping her there, while exposing Trump's for what it is
    Ultimately, everyone will see what a massive HOAX this whole thing has been and that the purpose was merely to be able to call Trump an impeached President. It was weak, it is lame, it was rushed and it is a despicable stain on the Democrats in the House that can never be cleansed.

    Mitch McConnell said it spectacularly in this speech:

    "It will be unprecedented if the Senate says secondhand and third hand testimony from unelected civil servants is enough to overturn the people's vote. It will be an unprecedented constitutional crisis if the Senate agrees to set the bar this low forever.

    "It is clear what this moment requires. It requires the Senate to fulfill our founding purpose. The framers built the Senate to provide stability — to take the long view of our republic. To safeguard institutions from the momentary hysteria that sometimes consumes our politics. To keep partisan passions from literally boiling over.

    "The Senate exists for moments like this. That's why this body has the ultimate say in impeachment.

    "The framers knew the House would be too moveable to transient passions and violent factionalism. They needed a body that would consider legal questions about what has proven and political questions about what the common good of our nation requires."

    "Back in June, Speaker Pelosi promised the House would build an ironclad case. Never mind that she was basically promising impeachment months, months before the Ukraine events, but that’s a separate matter. She promised an ironclad case. And in March, Speaker Pelosi said this: 'Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country,' end quote,"

    "By the Speaker’s own standards, the standards she set, she has failed the country. The case is not compelling, not overwhelming, and as a result not bipartisan. The failure was made clear to everyone earlier this week when Senator Schumer began searching for ways the Senate could step out of our proper role and try to fix the House Democrats’ failures for them."

    "And it was made even more clear last night when Speaker Pelosi suggested that House Democrats may be too afraid, too afraid to even transmit their shoddy work product to the Senate. Mr. President, it looks like the prosecutors are getting cold feet. In front of the entire country and second-guessing whether they even want to go to trial."
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You asked for the motivation behind Pelosi's moves and I gave them to you, she knows what she is doing, she hasn't lasted this long not knowing how to play the game

    You are partially correct, nine months from now it will all be forgotten, it was a year ago Trump shut down the Gov't and few remember, but enough do care to make a difference next November, and if Pelosi pulls it off America's portrait of Trump will further deteriorate
    Trump cannot shut down the Government you whiny, shrill, lying partisan hack. That is an act of Congress.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Were you sleeping through the whole House impeachment? The House had witnesses. They did not get many they needed because King Trump the First, forbid them from testifying or providing documentation. The Left asked and Trump stonewalled. Trump stopped the witnesses from appearing.I was sure you did not watch it before, but you proved you saw if through a vulpine filter.
    The House had witnesses to what? There was no crime; therefore, they are not witnesses. Their testimony was second hand OPINIONS; nothing more.

    This is from their star "witness":

    Vindman admitted that the president, not unelected bureaucrats, sets U.S. policy

    Vindman admitted he never had contact with President Trump

    Vindman admitted having no firsthand knowledge of aid or an investigation and was just “following news accounts”

    Vindman admitted Trump was “well within his rights” to ask Ukraine for help in an investigation

    Vindman admitted that putting the transcript of the Ukraine call on a secure server was “definitely not unprecedented”

    Vindman admitted the Trump-Zelenksy transcript was “very accurate”

    Vindman admitted he has never used the term “bribery” to describe the president’s actions

    Vindman said he couldn’t recall Ukrainians feeling pressured to do investigations

    Vindman said, "As far as I can tell," Hunter Biden was not qualified to serve on Burisma’s board

    Vindman said there was an appearance of a conflict of interest with Hunter Biden being on the Burisma board

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/ten-rea...for-democrats/
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Executive privilege serves as the excuse used by Trump to keep witnesses from testifying
    Wrong you shrill, lying leftist buffoon; it serves as a Constitutional protection.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And lions, and tigers, and bears, oh my
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Wrong you shrill, lying leftist buffoon; it serves as a Constitutional protection.
    Listen closely, my little ignoramus, Executive Privilege is NOT NOT NOT in the Constitution. Your ignorance amazes me daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Listen closely, my little ignoramus, Executive Privilege is NOT NOT NOT in the Constitution. Your ignorance amazes me daily.
    The courts have ruled that it is implicit in the constitutional Separation of Powers, which assigns discrete powers and rights to the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The courts have ruled that it is implicit in the constitutional Separation of Powers, which assigns discrete powers and rights to the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government.

    Once again you just make shit up. Its one fucking lie after another. This comment goes along with your posting that the Senate is in charge of impeachment.
    I can recall during the Obama days how much his use of executive privilege infuriated and angered you. Now its just fine, but don't lie about it. Its not part of the constitution and has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    If it is to do the right thing, why not? If the facts are so very important and this impeachment so solemn, why rush it through without all the facts?



    What does an election have to do with the solemn affair of impeaching a sitting President?



    Trump is the executive. The Constitution clearly identifies the separation of powers. It is his prerogative to ensure the integrity and sanctity of Executive Privilege. There is a very good reason behind the term Executive Privilege. If you were educated and not some low IQ hyper partisan lying dumb hack, you would know this. He is not required to do anything other follow the law.
    "Truthie" doesn't listen, Pelosi and the others laid it out perfectly, they were concerned that if Trump inviting the Ukriane into our election went umchecked what would stop him from inviting others to get involved, he's got a lot of autocratic buddies out there surely willing to do what they can for future favors

    Everyone saw in the past how he was eager and willing to accept anything the Russians could offer, and had just previously stated he would accept any dirt anyone could find, so the Democrats saw the time was now to act, not wait a year after the election for subpoenas to work their way threw the Courts

    And it is comical now how conservatives argue in favor of a strong Executive when for decades they screamed the President was becoming too powerful, who can forget the days they told us Obama was trying to make himself a Czar and abusing Executive Privilege.

    It is not a question of Executive Privilege, but rather Trump's unprecedented blanket use of Executive Privilege, in the NY case over Trump's taxes billy Barr even argued that Executive Priviege covered Trump's personal finances even before he became President.

    (Well, what do you think is next, the personal attacks, corny copy and pastes, or both?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Once again you just make shit up. Its one fucking lie after another. This comment goes along with your posting that the Senate is in charge of impeachment.
    I can recall during the Obama days how much his use of executive privilege infuriated and angered you. Now its just fine, but don't lie about it. Its not part of the constitution and has nothing to do with it.
    ^Triggered, lying leftist loon on steroids. Seriously; seek out a mental health expert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Truthie" doesn't listen,
    Says the lying leftist loon who continues to bloviate the same dumb disproved lies over and over again without a single fact to support them.

    You really are a shrill, dumb, lying political hack on steroids Arsecheese. I don't think you can post without lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ^Triggered, lying leftist loon on steroids. Seriously; seek out a mental health expert.
    I don't know if I should add your comment to your column of lies or the column of sheer stupidity. Possibly both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Trump cannot shut down the Government you whiny, shrill, lying partisan hack. That is an act of Congress.
    Does Trump know that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Does Trump know that?
    So now you agree with Trump? You are the definition of a shrill, lying, uneducated, leftist loon Arsecheese.

    Again, who controls the purse strings of Government? The Executive? Or the Congress? Moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    The left thinks that the Senate can call witnesses that the House can't call. Why didn't the House call these witnesses? Why does the House want the Senate to do its job?

    Were Schiff and Nadler incompetent?
    Use your brain- NOODLEHEAD!

    The witnesses the House has requested have refused to testify under Donald Trump's direct order- WHICH IS AN OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS!

    NOW HEAR THIS! This is one of the reasons why he is being impeached- OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS! DING DING!

    What kind of a fucking Twilight Zone do you live in? Do you actually live in the same Twilight Zone Donald Trump lives in!

    Well that is about appropriate! LOL BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    At least, keep up with the facts in the case. That way you won't have to ask such stupid questions!
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