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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Which means they do NOT have the power of subpoena. They must use the courts.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Of course they do. That is the method of getting uncooperative witnesses to testify
    Nope. The House does not have power of subpoena. They must use the courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You don't really believe Trump was interested in investigating corruption do you?

    He praised Little Rocket Man as a great leader knowing Kim massacred millions of his own countrymen, while he supported the Saudi even though it was public knowledge they butchered their own journalist, and you are trying to sell he was now concerned with corruption?

    And if he was, isn't it customary to have American agencies investigate an American citizen and not a foreign entity, and why is it the only name mentioned Biden and the only company Burmisa when the Ukriane has dozens of plutocrats running corrupt companies in the Ukriane some much larger than Burmisa? Besides, three years in, nothing, but the year before the election, now he is concerned?

    To believe Trump was concerned with corruption is either incredible naive or refusing to recognize the obvious
    Do you believe Phase One China is based upon Trump's desire to get re-elected or to improve America's trade position?

    Do you believe USMCA is based upon Trump's desire to get re-elected or to reform NAFTA and improve America's trade position?

    There is an actual job to do, whether you like it or not. Frankly, though, investigating Democratic corruption is always a worthwhile endeavor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Were you sleeping through the whole House impeachment? The House had witnesses. They did not get many they needed because King Trump the First, forbid them from testifying or providing documentation. The Left asked and Trump stonewalled. Trump stopped the witnesses from appearing.I was sure you did not watch it before, but you proved you saw if through a vulpine filter.
    House Republicans Deliver List of Eight Witnesses Requested for Impeachment Inquiry….

    Chairman Adam Schiff is leading the impeachment inquiry into President Trump and told republicans they had a deadline of yesterday for any requests for witnesses for the upcoming public hearings.

    Schiff has stated he will arbitrarily approve or deny any request from the House republicans.

    Today House republicans released a list of eight witnesses they want to see called to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry (full pdf below). Included in the list is the anonymous CIA “whistleblower”, Hunter Biden, Alexandra Chalupa (DNC operative who met with Ukrainian officials in 2016), and Nellie Ohr who was doing the Fusion-GPS 2016 opposition research using Ukrainian contacts and sources.

    The full list includes: Hunter Biden, Devon Archer, Alexandra Chalupa, Tim Morrison, David Hale, Kurt Volker, Nellie Ohr and the “Whistleblower”.

    It is unlikely Chairman Adam Schiff would permit the republicans to call Nellie Ohr as a witness because her activity throughout the 2016 election would be too damaging to the current impeachment narrative. Indeed, questions to Nellie Ohr would likely expose the origin of the Clinton-DNC-Fusion opposition research and manufacturing operation that eventually blended with the DOJ and FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The JPP liberals seem to continue to ignore the FACT that if Congress felt that their subpoenas were being ignore, that there was and is a remedy to that and it's not called whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    The JPP liberals seem to continue to ignore the FACT that if Congress felt that their subpoenas were being ignore, that there was and is a remedy to that and it's not called whining.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    House Republicans Deliver List of Eight Witnesses Requested for Impeachment Inquiry….

    Chairman Adam Schiff is leading the impeachment inquiry into President Trump and told republicans they had a deadline of yesterday for any requests for witnesses for the upcoming public hearings.

    Schiff has stated he will arbitrarily approve or deny any request from the House republicans.

    Today House republicans released a list of eight witnesses they want to see called to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry (full pdf below). Included in the list is the anonymous CIA “whistleblower”, Hunter Biden, Alexandra Chalupa (DNC operative who met with Ukrainian officials in 2016), and Nellie Ohr who was doing the Fusion-GPS 2016 opposition research using Ukrainian contacts and sources.

    The full list includes: Hunter Biden, Devon Archer, Alexandra Chalupa, Tim Morrison, David Hale, Kurt Volker, Nellie Ohr and the “Whistleblower”.

    It is unlikely Chairman Adam Schiff would permit the republicans to call Nellie Ohr as a witness because her activity throughout the 2016 election would be too damaging to the current impeachment narrative. Indeed, questions to Nellie Ohr would likely expose the origin of the Clinton-DNC-Fusion opposition research and manufacturing operation that eventually blended with the DOJ and FBI.
    You do know they had nothing to do with the case, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You do know they had nothing to do with the case, don't you?
    Prove they had nothing to do with the case!!

    It is unlikely Chairman Adam Schiff would permit the republicans to call Nellie Ohr as a witness because her activity throughout the 2016 election would be too damaging to the current impeachment narrative. Indeed, questions to Nellie Ohr would likely expose the origin of the Clinton-DNC-Fusion opposition research and manufacturing operation that eventually blended with the DOJ and FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. The House does not have power of subpoena. They must use the courts.
    The house has the power to subpoena. They even have the power to hold someone for contempt by jailing if they ignore it until he complies. They also can take a refusal to Federal Courts. But they have the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The house has the power to subpoena. They even have the power to hold someone for contempt by jailing if they ignore it until he complies. They also can take a refusal to Federal Courts. But they have the power.
    No, they don't.

    Where is a subpoena in the constitution?

    There is no mention of the word “subpoena” in the US Constitution; it is a traditional historical power of the court that was presumed to be among the powers delegated to the courts in Article III.

    Is Congress itself a court of law?

    Simple answer is no. Congress cannot hold trials, hand down judgments, etc. “Laws of Attainder,” or laws which arrest a specific person, are unconstitutional.

    Congress has a few powers that a court may have:
    It can issue subpoenas, for evidence or witnesses. The subpoenas are purely investigatory, to inform Congress in lawmaking and oversight.
    To enforce the subpoenas, Congress still has to go to a judge if a warrant is necessary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    The left thinks that the Senate can call witnesses that the House can't call. Why didn't the House call these witnesses? Why does the House want the Senate to do its job?

    Were Schiff and Nadler incompetent?
    YES
    Trump doesn't wear glasses because he already has 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Just think of all the witnesses the House could have called had not trump kept them from testifying.
    Just think if the House had done their job and taken the matter to the court for a ruling.
    Trump doesn't wear glasses because he already has 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Were you sleeping through the whole House impeachment? The House had witnesses. They did not get many they needed because King Trump the First, forbid them from testifying or providing documentation. The Left asked and Trump stonewalled. Trump stopped the witnesses from appearing.I was sure you did not watch it before, but you proved you saw if through a vulpine filter.
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    The house impeaches, the senate tries, moron. If they didn't have different powers why the fuck would we separate them? Are all you hicks total dimwits like the OP?

    How am I supposed to trust yall to do my menial labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The house has the power to subpoena. They even have the power to hold someone for contempt by jailing if they ignore it until he complies. They also can take a refusal to Federal Courts. But they have the power.
    No, they don't. They must use the courts.

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