The Democrats witness dilemma

[Minister of Truth]

Biden is not a witness to any of Trump’s transgressions.

Biden's corruption is the reason for the trial.

[Truth Detector]

My expertise always trumps ha ha your enthusiasm. Trump will not be convicted in the GOP Senate, I agree, but he won't be found Innocent. The 'slap on the wrist' has cost him re-election. The material found will be used in the indictments when he steps down from office new January.

Another stupid, brain dead prediction saved. Here's a blast from JimmytheIdiot's past:

QUOTE=jimmymccready;2526378]The mid-terms are coming quickly now, Mueller is preparing his October surprises that will far surpass that of Comey, and Manafort's confession is but weeks away when he makes his deal with the prosecutors.
The Trumpanzees are hooting and shrilling as they see their end approaching.

QUOTE=jimmymccready;2531147]Nunes may end up going to prison along with his helpers.

QUOTE=jimmymccready;2534227]Mueller is so far ahead of Trump and his base, that when he releases his report, the day before would be Trump and his base against Real America, the day after will be Trump and his base against Real America and the Real World.

QUOTE=jimmymccready;2567515]Gillum will show much or not if the Trump wall is cracking.

[Frank Apisa]

And as usual your comprehension sucks. Trump has not been convicted in the Senate yet! Thus your vaunted impeachment is nothing more than a slap on the wrist and will remain so when if and when he is acquitted in the Senate.

ANDREW JOHNSON...WAS IMPEACHED. He served out his term, but he was an American president who was impeached.

BILL CLINTON...WAS IMPEACHED. He served out his term, but he was an American president who was IMPEACHED.

Trump is an American president...AND HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. Because of the cowardly Republican senators, he probably will serve out his term.

BUT HE WILL ALWAYS BE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS IMPEACHED.

[Darth Omar]

Huh??????????



Ummm...rather a general statement. Some ARE, Darth. Trump, for instance, is.




It is patently obvious all politicians are willing to stretch the truth in order to further their objectives.

Trump on the other hand lies about damn near everything...for almost no reason other than that he is a liar.



Oh...you think she has halted?

Okay.



Okay...thanks for sharing that. Now I'm interested in why the Republican senators are against doing it. Hell...The Leader has assured them that he has done nothing wrong. So...only exculpatory evidence is out there...and no damaging evidence.

Right?



As I said...the Republican senators can make the Democrats look like goddam fools...by just bringing in people like John Bolton, Mick Mulveney, and Mike Duffy. They will all swear under oath that Trump is as pure as new-fallen snow.

Right?

Yup...let's have it.

You have a habit of ignoring points you don’t like lol.

Pelosi absolutely ‘halted’ the process by sitting on the articles. And this, after it was all ‘we must hurry, before Trump steals the next election’.

I’m pretty sure even you don’t believe that crap, Frank. You attempt to rationalize it by claiming the articles are doomed because Republicans are scoundrels when the FACT IS the articles are weak. Pelosi and the Democrats KNEW THIS when they were passed.

But the lemmings accept that tripe because that’s what lemmings do.

My point is this: if the Senate votes to allow witnesses, they will be effectively voting for more weak articles of impeachment to be sent over from the House in the future. There WILL BE presidents impeached based on the mere fact the opposing party controls the House and they can whip enough votes out of their own caucus to do it.

Take it to the bank.

If the Senate wants to preserve the integrity of the impeachment process, they will vote on the articles as they were *gleefully* delivered by Pelosi and the House.

Since the evidence the House gathered is compelling, right Frank?

[Getin the ring]

My expertise always trumps ha ha your enthusiasm. Trump will not be convicted in the GOP Senate, I agree, but he won't be found Innocent. The 'slap on the wrist' has cost him re-election. The material found will be used in the indictments when he steps down from office new January.

It says a lot about you that you admit you will remain triggered for 5 more years, lying in wait

grow up tiny

[USFREEDOM911]

Hunter doesn’t have to be charged. All Trump has to do is prove that there was enough to show he was worthy of investigation

There is enough in the public record to show there was more than a whiff of corruption

But then if Hunter is innocent he would have no fear of testifying right?

I'm not so sure that Hunter Biden can really be charged with anything; but his sworn testimony could very well spell the end for Joe.

[Nordberg]

Biden's corruption is the reason for the trial.

Oh,tell us all what Biden did. You must have some real solid proof. let's hear it.

[jimmymccready]

It says a lot about you that you admit you will remain triggered for 5 more years, lying in wait grow up tiny

You need to grow up, because your 'triggering' is obvious. Trump has stepped into the swamp, and he now will be unable to extract himself and will the lose election as a result.

[Eagle_Eye]

ANDREW JOHNSON...WAS IMPEACHED. He served out his term, but he was an American president who was impeached.

BILL CLINTON...WAS IMPEACHED. He served out his term, but he was an American president who was IMPEACHED.

Trump is an American president...AND HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. Because of the cowardly Republican senators, he probably will serve out his term.

BUT HE WILL ALWAYS BE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS IMPEACHED.

Who fucking cares. When you think of what Johnson, or Clinton did impeachment is the last thing anyone well except die hard liberals think of.

[Getin the ring]

Oh,tell us all what Biden did. You must have some real solid proof. let's hear it.

we'll ALL hear it real soon, yall come back now

[USFREEDOM911]

He was the catalyst for the entire scam.

If witnesses are called, he will be called. The Biden crime family too.

Didn't the Brown case start falling apart, when it was discovered that several "witnesses" were lying about him being executed by the Officer and yet their testimony was "supported" by other "witnesses" and the entire "HANDS UP / DON'T SHOOT" situation was based on those lies??

[Eagle_Eye]

My expertise always trumps ha ha your enthusiasm. Trump will not be convicted in the GOP Senate, I agree, but he won't be found Innocent. The 'slap on the wrist' has cost him re-election. The material found will be used in the indictments when he steps down from office new January.

I believe you are wrong. This impeachment has shown the American people just how partisan the Democrats are, I believe it hurt them and increased Trumps chances. But we will see.

[USFREEDOM911]

What do you know of how the electorate feels, I do know that desperation has set in and you will do anything and everything possible to keep witnesses from testifying. Now if Trump was truly innocent you would love to have witnesses testify in his behalf.

The desperation is and always has been the definition of liberal behavior (since 2016) and you continually ignore that the foundation of our entire legal system is based on:

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

Why do you hate the American Judicial System and America??

[Frank Apisa]

You have a habit of ignoring points you don’t like lol.

I do not ignore anything on this issue.

You wrote: "Different than the your rationalization about why Democrats wouldn’t wait on Bolton’s testimony before voting lol?"

I have no idea of what you mean by that. I suspect you do not know what you meant by that either.

Pelosi absolutely ‘halted’ the process by sitting on the articles. And this, after it was all ‘we must hurry, before Trump steals the next election’.

I’m pretty sure even you don’t believe that crap, Frank. You attempt to rationalize it by claiming the articles are doomed because Republicans are scoundrels when the FACT IS the articles are weak. Pelosi and the Democrats KNEW THIS when they were passed.

Stop paraphrasing me. You are not very good at it. If you have a problem with something I have said...quote what I said and tell me what you object to.

But the lemmings accept that tripe because that’s what lemmings do.

Trump sycophants should not talk about lemmings.

My point is this: if the Senate votes to allow witnesses, they will be effectively voting for more weak articles of impeachment to be sent over from the House in the future. There WILL BE presidents impeached based on the mere fact the opposing party controls the House and they can whip enough votes out of their own caucus to do it.

Okay...a valid point.

But I think they should call for witnesses. There have been two previous presidential impeachment trials...and both had witnesses.

The world did not come to an end.

Take it to the bank.

My guess is the next time the Republicans have the majority in the House and there is a Democratic president...there will be talk of impeachment.

Nothing you can do about that.

If the Senate wants to preserve the integrity of the impeachment process, they will vote on the articles as they were *gleefully* delivered by Pelosi and the House.

If the Republican Senators want to develop a bit of integrity...they will ask for more witnesses...and then convict this disgusting abomination now in the White House.

But...I doubt "integrity" is what is on their minds.

Since the evidence the House gathered is compelling, right Frank?

There were 600 former federal prosecutors who said that "the evidence the House gathered" is not only compelling...it is MORE than they had when they got convictions.

So???

[Frank Apisa]

Who fucking cares. When you think of what Johnson, or Clinton did impeachment is the last thing anyone well except die hard liberals think of.

YOU were the one saying Trump has not been impeached.

Just schooling you.

Not an easy thing to do with you.