Earl (01-20-2020)
The oath says,
"Do you solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John Trump, president of the United States, now pending, you will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help you god?"
"...do impartial justice..."...WHICH IS WHAT I SAID...not "...be impartial jurists"...WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE INCORRECTLY ARGUING.
One again..."do impartial justice." They should take into consideration all that is available and all they can obtain...in order to at least pretend they are doing "impartial justice."Jurists of what? Whatever the House sends them. The House has sent the articles and they insured the whole country that ‘it was all that was needed’ to remove Trump.
We have only had two other presidential impeachments...AND BOTH HAD WITNESSES. We also had one other hearing of a presidential impeachment...and that had TONS OF WITNESSES.
You people do not want witnesses because they will fry this incompetent, classless, lawless boor's ass. And people like you would rather be kissing that ass rather than seeing it fried.
Sounds good to me.Well, let’s get on with it.
Darth, you asked a question (a rather loaded one) and I answered the question without all the load. It sounds as thought you do not like the answer I gave. Fine with me...but it is my answer.And I’ll thank you in advance for not insulting my intelligence with the notion that Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler and a whole bunch of other Democrats are, in any way, ‘impartial’.
Thanks.
In any case, I doubt any intelligent person is impartial on this matter.
But...let's put the witnesses up there and present the case as clearly and thoroughly as possible...and then let the spineless Republicans in the Senate acquit the abomination no matter how much evidence of his wrong-doings is presented.
That should not have a negative impact on our cyber-friendship, Darth.
ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!
Earl (01-20-2020)
PoliTalker (01-20-2020)
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Earl (01-20-2020)
The words are here, Darth.
Beats the shit out of me.Who are the jurists?
According to the late Chief Justice Renquist it is NOT the senators...or at least, that is not entirely their job.
The chief justice sustained the objection of Sen. Tom Harkin to the use of the word "jurors" when referring to the senators at the trial of Bill Clinton.
“The Senate is not simply a jury,” he ruled. “It is a court in this case.”
Rehnquist thus admonished the House managers “to refrain from referring to the senators as jurors.” For the balance of the trial, they were called “triers of law and fact.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opini...wla-story.html
I imagine they would balk at calling you or me as a witness also, Darth. Hunter Biden has absolutely nothing whatever to do with whether or not Trump extorted President Zelensky.And I’m not the one standing in the way of witnesses—it’s the Democrats. They balked on Hunter Biden and I just opened a thread on it.
ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!
Earl (01-20-2020)
Iolo/Penderyn (01-20-2020), PoliTalker (01-20-2020)
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USFREEDOM911 (01-20-2020)
45* has already confessed to the crime. His position is that extracting a Trumped up investigation of his rivals from Ukraine is AOK and "perfect." All he can do is implicate others.
I'm not sure about the legal relevancy of a perp saying murder is not murder because I'm king. Although I would enjoy watching his lawyers
watch him testify.
Earl (01-20-2020)
Darth, have you noticed that this forum is slow this morning?
Perhaps it's just the slow libruls (sic).
Hello Darth,
Those people are partial when it comes to policy, but this is justice, and they have done a remarkable job of servicing the Constitution. It was an amazing impeachment. They covered all the bases from establishing well beyond a reasonable doubt why, to why impeachment is needed in the Constitution. It was very informative and absolutely convincing to anyone who went into it with an open mind.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Earl (01-20-2020), USFREEDOM911 (01-20-2020)
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Earl (01-20-2020), USFREEDOM911 (01-20-2020)
Frank Apisa (01-20-2020)
It appears that Walter has disappeared and PoliTalker has taken his place. Magic!
Earl (01-20-2020)
Hello Darth,
Trump fans are not impartial. They are heavily prejudiced. They refuse to even consider the possibility that Trump is guilty.
They accept lies. How could they be moved by the truth?
They have been conditioned to accept lies which were repeated over and over. They only way to get they to accept the truth is to have it repeated over and over. If all the witnesses heard in the House didn't do it, then we must hear from even more numerous and convincing witnesses in the Senate.
Trials have witnesses. A trail which refuses to hear knowledgeable first hand witnesses is a farce.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (01-20-2020)
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