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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Instead...why not call Bolton or Mulvaney...or...

    ...Trump.

    Good grief, would I ever love to see Trump testify under oath!
    I'm fine with Bolton and Mulvaney. Mulvaney had a "drug deal" with your Star witness, Sondland.

    Trump's testimony has already been provided; we've all read the transcript.

    OTOH, Joe Biden's response to any questions about Hunter's job at Burisma, ... has been .. HOW DARE YOU ... ask me that question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Exactly!!!

    In fact, Biden could probably insure his victory in November if he announced he will voluntarily testify at the impeachment.
    I absolutely agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Instead...why not call Bolton or Mulvaney...or...

    ...Trump.

    Good grief, would I ever love to see Trump testify under oath!
    It would be the best! His lawyers even know what a disaster that would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    In a ‘fair’ trial the defense gets to call their own witnesses lol.
    Let 'em. Maybe we'll find out who these 'invisible witnesses' pencilneck keeps going on about. Oh, and Trump gets to call his own witnesses too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You want a fair trial, right? If Hunter turns out Ukraine-dirty, poof.
    A bright light can be shown on almost any Democrat activity. They were really stupid enough to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    To make the case even stronger?

    or

    Why not?

    Your choice.



    Bullshit.

    The other two presidential impeachments had witnesses...this one should also.



    Since The Leader is so obviously innocent...why are you people so afraid of hearing from people who can testify?

    Why?



    Trump does not even enter my dreams...let alone haunt them.

    And if "witnesses at a trial" is something we have to live with...

    ...OKAY WITH ME.

    Actually...we often see witnesses at trials.

    In fact...I do not know of ANY trial in this country where there were no witnesses.

    Get with the program, Darth.
    70% of people polled want to see witnesses. Darth is a member of the Dear Leader Cult those who are so blind they can not see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Hunter Biden is not charged with anything nor is on trial. Nor is a witness to any abuse of power that Trump committed.

    Moron.
    Uh...yes he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Under no conditions was trump justified in withholding aid.
    He can do so for any reason whatsoever. He doesn't need to 'justify' it.
    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Could it be just a coincidence that this aid was released immediately after the whistleblower came forward.
    Nope. It was never withheld.
    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Please show us, my dear, where trump was justified in withholding aid payments approved by congress.
    He didn't, but he can if he wants to, and for any reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You did hear Mr. Parnas say that everything was about investigating Biden, no one cared about corruption.
    Obviously you don't care about the corruption of Biden or Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    One...the announcement is NOT necessary. Trump was impeached the moment the House passed the first article of impeachment.

    Two...the House Managers (not the House Leaders)...DELIVERED (not announced)...the articles of impeachment to the Senate yesterday.

    Your comments were made today.

    See what happens when you shoot your mouth off and don't know what the hell you are talking about?
    the announcement is NOT necessary. Trump was impeached the moment the House passed the first article of impeachment.
    You are correct Trump was impeached when the vote was in.

    And I hadn't seen the news that they had delivered the articles. OMG I wasn't up to date during my posting today. Good on you Frank you got me on that but we will see who has the last laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    There is no justification for blackmail.
    What blackmail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    trump could NOT hold up aid to Ukraine- period.
    Yes he can. For any reason at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Oh, stop acting the silly. Trump was Impeached the second the vote of Impeachment was concluded. Learn your civics, dude.
    I will admit I was incorrect, damn I should never pay attention to left wing media experts thanks for the lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Bullshit. He was still blackmailing Zelensky.
    And Biden did it for personal gain, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I'm fine with Bolton and Mulvaney. Mulvaney had a "drug deal" with your Star witness, Sondland.
    I had no star witness. I am also fine with Bolton and Mulvaney. We'll see if they get a chance to testify. I expect if they do not...Bolton will go public with stuff that will wilt the wallpaper.

    Trump's testimony has already been provided; we've all read the transcript.
    That was not a transcript...and the articles cover a lot more than just that phone conversation.

    In any case, there is no way that Trump will ever be allowed near this trial.

    The next time he will be sworn in...he will be the defendant in a proceeding somewhere in New York.

    OTOH, Joe Biden's response to any questions about Hunter's job at Burisma, ... has been .. HOW DARE YOU ... ask me that question.
    If Hunter Biden's job at Brisma was as a paid assassin...it would have absolutely nothing whatever to do with the impeachment trial going on.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    The terms are "abuse of power" and "obstruction of Congress", which has nothing to do with the Bidens.
    Define 'abuse of power'. Define 'obstruction of Congress'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I misused the term. It was extortion and abuse of power. Toss in obstruction of Congress. The Bidens and their testimony are irrelevant. You're desperately grasping at straws.
    Nope. Completely relevant. Trump can bring up ANY attempt to overturn the 2016 election as evidence to support his defense.

    That includes the extortion by Biden and Obama for personal gain, it includes all the time wasted investigating some kind of 'link with the Russians', and putting Pencilneck in the spotlight for his illegal acts and exposing his 'invisible witnesses' for what they are, nothingburgers.

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