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    Hello Nordberg,

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Thinnest? based on what? Trump is getting deeper and deeper every day. But the House had lots more and settled on 2.The House impeaches after gathering evidence. The Senate runs a trial. Do you understand what is involved in a trial? Witnesses, evidence, lawyers and judges. The house was essentially acting as an evidence-gathering organization, similar to the police crime scene investigation and forensics. That is turned over to the Senate for a trial.
    Republicans want to get a big rubber stamp that says 'innocent,' stamp the papers and claim they held a trial.

    They consider Trump above the law. They wanna hand him a scepter and cover his combover with a crown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Both have already made public statements of being partial.

    What a crock if they are allowed to swear impartiality with no objections.

    Justice Roberts, we are counting on you.

    Reject both of them!
    Every democrat in the Senate running for President and auditioning for VP should recuse themselves as they are not impartial

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Nordberg,



    Republicans want to get a big rubber stamp that says 'innocent,' stamp the papers and claim they held a trial.

    They consider Trump above the law. They wanna hand him a scepter and cover his combover with a crown.

    should have built a better case

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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Thinnest, based on historical precedent.

    The evidence in the Clinton/Nixon impeachments were voluminous by comparison. In fact, both Nixon and Clinton were deemed guilty prior to the House passing the articles.
    So was Trump, depending on who you ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    In terms of impeachment, there has never been a more ‘rush to judgment’ then this.
    I must have missed the part of the Constitution that says all impeachments will be the same.

    What Trump did was worse than Nixon or Clinton. Clinton lied about a BJ. Nixon tried to rig an election domestically. Trump tried to rig an election by inviting foreign intervention. That Trumps the other two! And after all, he's Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    His statement really applies to repubs but he doesn't see it. And especially to Senate repubs.
    Classic projection, don't you concur, Doctor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    That doesn't follow. And some Democrats voted each way. That shows they were not voting any strict party line. But all the Republicans voted the same cookie cutter way. Very partisan.



    Everyone should, Republicans included. What happened to the Republicans who refused to comment? Saying "I cannot comment. I am a potential juror?" What happened to that? How can a juror come out before a trial has even started and state they have already made up their mind and then go swear to be impartial? They can't. Not without lying.



    If Republicans turn this into a sham without witnesses, the 70% of Americans who want to hear from all the witnesses are not going to be satisfied with it. This needs to be a real trial.

    Trump needs to testify, just like Bill Clinton did.

    We need to hear from our leader, front and center. It's lonely at the top time.
    The Senate *assumes* the House did the necessary investigative work prior to sending the articles so they are under no obligation to continue the investigation in the Senate by calling witnesses neither side has had an opportunity to interview prior to the trial.

    None, whatsoever.

    This message needs to be sent to future Houses: don’t send half-finished investigations over and expect us to finish *your work* and then vote on it. House Democrats had a shot at Bolton but they wanted their half-cocked impeachment* before Christmas.

    No witnesses. Sorry/not sorry.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Classic projection, don't you concur, Doctor?
    I do, Doctor.


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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The Senate *assumes* the House did the necessary investigative work prior to sending the articles so they are under no obligation to continue the investigation in the Senate by calling witnesses neither side has had an opportunity to interview prior to the trial.

    None, whatsoever.

    This message needs to be sent to future Houses: don’t send half-finished investigations over and expect us to finish *your work* and then vote on it. House Democrats had a shot at Bolton but they wanted their half-cocked impeachment* before Christmas.

    No witnesses. Sorry/not sorry.
    Well correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like Susan Collins and Lamar Alexander both want to hear from witnesses. Sounds like the dam is breaking. Just toss in Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski and all of a sudden we might just hear from witnesses after all. This thing could get very out of control of Trump real fast, tweets or no tweets.

    It only takes 4 Republicans to jump ship...

    And we have more evidence coming out regularly. If the Senate doesn't seize the opportunity to deal with it the House can always crank up another impeachment.

    The SCOTUS is set to rule on releasing Trump's taxes and financial records in March. That could lead to another impeachment, if Trump survives this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Well "pp" show us, show us where a Senate Democrat said they knew exactly now how they will cast their vote in the Senate before the evidence is delivered. Show us where any Senate Democrat said that they would be working with the impeachment managers to get the verdict they wanted

    If you can't, you are showing us that you are full of shit, your turn
    start with the six running for president who've already said they want him impeached......then add the all other demmycunts who've thought it but may not have said it........stupid fuck, get that penis out of your ear.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I love how you believe that you know how a large group of millions of people think.
    I base it on input from the examples here. I'm also talking about the folks here. But hey, you can imagine all sorts of stuff and try to put that on me, it seems to be par for the course with Democrats.

    We can also determine a bit how "they" think by the way they start spouting talking points... like, "They shouldn't be allowed to say they'll be impartial!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Every democrat in the Senate running for President and auditioning for VP should recuse themselves as they are not impartial
    Not about the idiot in chief, but that does not mean they cannot hear the evidence and make a fair and honest decision. The difference is Moscow and Lindsey said they will not. They have no intention of being fair jurors. That is a terrible thing to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Not about the idiot in chief, but that does not mean they cannot hear the evidence and make a fair and honest decision. The difference is Moscow and Lindsey said they will not. They have no intention of being fair jurors. That is a terrible thing to say.
    They all have major conflicts of interest and would be guilty of that which Trump is being accused; abuse of power interfering in an election trying to damage ones opponent

    There isn’t a criminal court in the country that would allow them to be jurors. They must recuse themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    Well correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like Susan Collins and Lamar Alexander both want to hear from witnesses. Sounds like the dam is breaking. Just toss in Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski and all of a sudden we might just hear from witnesses after all. This thing could get very out of control of Trump real fast, tweets or no tweets.

    It only takes 4 Republicans to jump ship...

    And we have more evidence coming out regularly. If the Senate doesn't seize the opportunity to deal with it the House can always crank up another impeachment.

    The SCOTUS is set to rule on releasing Trump's taxes and financial records in March. That could lead to another impeachment, if Trump survives this one.
    Well, if the Senate votes to hear witnesses then future Houses can send partially investigated charges over to the Senate—with a straight line partisan vote by the majority party. Then they can sit on the articles while the investigation is completed, or not.

    Or they can not send them at all, and proclaim that the president is ‘impeached for life’. Then we’ll get to see if the Democrat President is able to ‘survive it’.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Not about the idiot in chief, but that does not mean they cannot hear the evidence and make a fair and honest decision. The difference is Moscow and Lindsey said they will not. They have no intention of being fair jurors. That is a terrible thing to say.
    But it’s terrible what Democrats have done to the impeachment process lol.
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    everybody is a player here: Roberts excluded, but i'm sure he'd rather not see this farce ..
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    How can the Dems running for POTUS possibly be neutral/unbiased? start recusals there

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