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    We Have To Get Rid Of Trump To Fix STUPID!


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    The TruthDetectors do not have the votes they need or the states they need to protect Trump in November.

    He will be handily defeated and both chambers of Congress will go Bigly Blue.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Poor Jerome; still stuck on stupid.

    Below is the composition of air in percent by volume, at sea level at 15 C and 101325 Pa.

    Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%
    Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%
    Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%
    Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%
    Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%
    Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%
    Helium -- He -- 0.000524%
    Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%
    Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%
    Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%
    Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%
    Nitrogen Dioxide -- NO2 -- 0.000002%
    Iodine -- I2 -- 0.000001%
    Carbon Monoxide -- CO -- trace
    Ammonia -- NH3 -- trace

    29% of Earth is land mass. Of that 29% humans occupy less than 1% of that area. Of the remaining 28% about 40% is pure wilderness. 14% is true desert and 15% has desert like characteristics. 9% is Antarctica. Most of the remaining 22% are agricultural areas. There may be other areas with a human footprint of some kind.

    The notion that man is causing the planet to heat up based on CO2 that amounts to less than 1% of the gas in oxygen can only be believed by morons.
    It's really difficult for me to imagine how fucking stupid you have to be to equate "land-mass occupied" with the amount of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere. The CO2 we emit into the atmosphere goes WELL beyond our city limits, dickwad. That's a total non-sequitur.

    With respect to the gasses, nitrogen, oxygen and argon do not absorb or penetrate light. In other words, they cannot absorb heat, and have no effect on global warming. Water vapor and CO2, however, absorb heat like crazy. In fact, CO2 and water vapor are so absorbant, if we DIDN'T have those gasses, our planet would be an entirely lifeless, frozen block. Quite simply, CO2 represents damned near 100% of the global greenhouse gases.

    You don't understand basic physical chemistry, but you feel comfortable enough tackling an infinitely more complex subject, like the earth's atmosphere?

    Wow. Just Wow. You're incredibly dumb (which by itself isn't a crime, but combined with your arrogance, it weaponizes you against the human race's progress).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    It's really difficult for me to imagine how fucking stupid you have to be to equate "land-mass occupied" with the amount of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere. The CO2 we emit into the atmosphere goes WELL beyond our city limits, dickwad. That's a total non-sequitur.
    It's even more difficult for me to imagine how retarded you are for not being able to comprehend the OBVIOUS you pathetic, gullible low IQ asswhipe.

    C02 amounts to 0.0314% of the composition of oxygen. The notion that it is causing the warming is mentally retarded. The fact that man occupies less than 3% of the planet but can cause the entire planet to warm is equally retarded.

    But then, you have to be mentally retarded to be a leftists in the first place. Fuck off and kill yourself Jerome. One less moron taking up valuable oxygen.
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    Hello and Welcome Jerome,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    Well that's not fair. Republicans can't win if they can't cheat (see my sig).
    Spot on.

    Welcome to the discussions.

    Take away gerrymandering, voter role purges, and other Republican dirty election rigging tricks and the Republican party would be dead already, instead of the walking dead that it is now.

    Half of those rich old white guys have one foot in the grave already.

    -Which explains why they don't care about climate change.

    But it does cause one to wonder if they have any grandchildren and why they don't care about them or their future.

    What's the use of perpetuating the class war and amassing such huge fortunes if the heirs they intend to will it to won't have a planet to spend it on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You need to adjust that to the voters who you allow at the polls.
    You don't get to change the Constitution by yourself. You are not the king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    A 1.5C increase in global temperature in a century is unprecedented, and it coincides perfectly with the industrial revolution. Your dumb, faux-pedantic posts notwithstanding, the people who actually study this shit for a living know precisely what "global warming" and "climate change" are, and they certainly don't need some jackwagon from a right-wing politics board with an associate's degree in woodworking (or whatever the fuck you do) to tell them what the science is.
    It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. There are not anywhere near enough thermometers.

    Since you claim to understand what 'global warming' and 'climate change' mean, define them here. You claim there is science. Describe the theory, how it's falsifiable, and it's equation.

    I say that the 1st law of thermodynamics says that you cannot create energy out of any gas in the atmosphere.
    I say that the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that you cannot warm the surface using a colder gas.
    I say that the Stefan-Boltzmann law says that temperature and radiance must move in the same direction. They are never inversely proportional.

    You cannot trap heat.
    You cannot trap light.
    You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.

    The ISS skin temperature on the daylit side of the station can approach 250 deg F. There is no carbon dioxide or appreciable atmosphere around the station. During the day, there is no place on Earth that has ever measured any temperature anywhere near that hot. Earth has carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. How do you explain this paradox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    By that time he will be in jail where he belongs
    What crime?

    Oh, BTW, did you know the Senate cannot throw him jail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    The TruthDetectors do not have the votes they need or the states they need to protect Trump in November.

    He will be handily defeated and both chambers of Congress will go Bigly Blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    It's really difficult for me to imagine how fucking stupid you have to be to equate "land-mass occupied" with the amount of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere. The CO2 we emit into the atmosphere goes WELL beyond our city limits, dickwad. That's a total non-sequitur.

    With respect to the gasses, nitrogen, oxygen and argon do not absorb or penetrate light. In other words, they cannot absorb heat, and have no effect on global warming. Water vapor and CO2, however, absorb heat like crazy. In fact, CO2 and water vapor are so absorbant, if we DIDN'T have those gasses, our planet would be an entirely lifeless, frozen block. Quite simply, CO2 represents damned near 100% of the global greenhouse gases.

    You don't understand basic physical chemistry, but you feel comfortable enough tackling an infinitely more complex subject, like the earth's atmosphere?

    Wow. Just Wow. You're incredibly dumb (which by itself isn't a crime, but combined with your arrogance, it weaponizes you against the human race's progress).
    You are only showing your illiteracy in several theories of science.

    No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. Not even a magick gas like CO2. ALL gases can absorb light and convert it to thermal energy. Heat is not something that is absorbed. Heat is not contained in anything. Heat is the flow of thermal energy, not the thermal energy itself.
    It is YOU that is denying chemistry here, as well as physics.

    * You cannot create energy out of nothing (1st law of thermodynamics: E(t+1)=E(t)+U
    * You cannot heat the surface using a colder gas. You cannot reduce entropy in any system. (2nd law of thermodynamics: (e(t+1) >= e(t)
    * You cannot reduce the radiance of Earth and increase its temperature at the same time. (Stefan-Boltzmann law: r=C*e*t^4

    Why do you deny science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello and Welcome Jerome,



    Spot on.

    Welcome to the discussions.

    Take away gerrymandering, voter role purges, and other Republican dirty election rigging tricks and the Republican party would be dead already, instead of the walking dead that it is now.

    Half of those rich old white guys have one foot in the grave already.

    -Which explains why they don't care about climate change.

    But it does cause one to wonder if they have any grandchildren and why they don't care about them or their future.

    What's the use of perpetuating the class war and amassing such huge fortunes if the heirs they intend to will it to won't have a planet to spend it on?
    Earth isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Half of those rich old white guys have one foot in the grave already.

    -Which explains why they don't care about climate change.
    Define 'climate change'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hottest Decade.
    How do you know?

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    Lying Trump thinks it's a hoax,
    He's correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    pulled out of Paris.
    I applaud him.

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    Trump stands in the way of fighting Climate Change.
    This is where the Church of Global Warming ("the CGW") rejects logic. Buzzword Fallacy. Void Argument Fallacy. Define "climate change". Remember, words cannot be circularly defined.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We are out of time.
    Then why does my clock keep ticking??

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We can't wait another 4 years before we get serious.
    ...about WHAT, exactly?

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    The eyes of the world are upon us.
    Are they not always?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We have to get rid of Trump and get somebody who understands the seriousness of the situation.
    ...of WHAT situation, exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The climate is more important than the economy,
    What is "the climate"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    but there is no reason that fighting climate change has to destroy the economy.
    How do you fight that which you cannot even logically define?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We put something like 30% of our economy toward fighting for our survival in WWII. This is actually far more serious than a despot, and we put less than 1% of our economy toward this.
    That's already putting too much towards "this".

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Things have got to change.
    According to you, "the climate" is already doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Big changes.
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We need a bold leader who recognizes the problem and is prepared to take significant steps.
    Is this leader the goddess Climate by any chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    As far as leaders go, Trump is like candy. Candy is fine but we can't live on candy. We need some protein. We need a leader that knows how to build a future. We can't live on short term feel-good tax cuts and an economy that makes the rich even richer and the government debt greater. Great. The stock market took off. That only benefits the upper half. What's everybody else supposed to do? What's the government supposed to do? The deficit is irresponsibly unmanageable as the richest enjoy deep tax cuts. That is irresponsible. We have to quit believing this myth that we need Trump to have a good economy. We have to understand that if we keep Trump, we doom the world to ever more warming. A climate we can't live in makes money worthless. What good is money if you have no world to spend it in?
    Just can't talk about anything without inserting a long rambling anti-Trump rant, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    This is bigger than getting Supreme Court Justices. Bigger than the economy.

    This is life.

    This is having a future.
    Define "This"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Doesn't anybody care about their grandchildren?
    Sure people do...

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    I am amazed so many people are willing to take such risks with the future for their grandchildren.
    What "risks with the future"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    SMH

    Get rid of Trump.
    Orange Man bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hottest Decade.

    Lying Trump thinks it's a hoax, pulled out of Paris.

    Trump stands in the way of fighting Climate Change.

    We are out of time. We can't wait another 4 years before we get serious. The eyes of the world are upon us.

    We have to get rid of Trump and get somebody who understands the seriousness of the situation.

    The climate is more important than the economy, but there is no reason that fighting climate change has to destroy the economy. We put something like 30% of our economy toward fighting for our survival in WWII. This is actually far more serious than a despot, and we put less than 1% of our economy toward this.

    Things have got to change. Big changes. We need a bold leader who recognizes the problem and is prepared to take significant steps.

    As far as leaders go, Trump is like candy. Candy is fine but we can't live on candy. We need some protein. We need a leader that knows how to build a future. We can't live on short term feel-good tax cuts and an economy that makes the rich even richer and the government debt greater. Great. The stock market took off. That only benefits the upper half. What's everybody else supposed to do? What's the government supposed to do? The deficit is irresponsibly unmanageable as the richest enjoy deep tax cuts. That is irresponsible. We have to quit believing this myth that we need Trump to have a good economy. We have to understand that if we keep Trump, we doom the world to ever more warming. A climate we can't live in makes money worthless. What good is money if you have no world to spend it in?

    This is bigger than getting Supreme Court Justices. Bigger than the economy.

    This is life.

    This is having a future.

    Doesn't anybody care about their grandchildren?

    I am amazed so many people are willing to take such risks with the future for their grandchildren.

    SMH

    Get rid of Trump.
    it's a hoax. shut your idiot hole and think about what you've done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    It's even more difficult for me to imagine how retarded you are for not being able to comprehend the OBVIOUS you pathetic, gullible low IQ asswhipe.

    C02 amounts to 0.0314% of the composition of oxygen. The notion that it is causing the warming is mentally retarded. The fact that man occupies less than 3% of the planet but can cause the entire planet to warm is equally retarded.

    But then, you have to be mentally retarded to be a leftists in the first place. Fuck off and kill yourself Jerome. One less moron taking up valuable oxygen.
    So, to be clear, are you arguing that Nitrogen, Oxygen and Argon do absorb heat? Because that is counter to the laws of physics.

    It's hard to tell from your incessant rambling whether or not you intend to make any point at all.

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