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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    I get it. You're conservative. Conservatism is a factory for easy marks. You are taught to blindly obey god/parents/authority figures, that abuse is a form of love (corporal punishment, discouragement of complaint, etc), curiosity is insubordination, and obedience is more valuable than integrity or ethics.

    But try -- DO TRY -- to actually accept some facts that run counter to this brainwashing.
    No one is required to accept any fact. It is YOU that is mindlessly chanting what others have told you to say. Inversion fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump is only delaying the inevitable.
    The inevitable what? Void argument fallacy.
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    The world is going to take increasingly aggressive steps to deal with climate change.
    Define 'climate change'.
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    The sooner we begin those steps, the more effective they will be and the less disastrous the affects of climate change will be.
    Define 'climate change'.
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    That's why we have to get rid of Trump asap.
    Why? Define 'climate change'.
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    You know, when you put a turkey in the oven, the inside of that turkey doesn't instantly become as hot as the oven. It takes time for the heat to make it's way in there.
    Congratulations. You just described thermal inertia.
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    The planet is the same way.
    Correct.
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    So we have all these climate gasses which have been released. That is causing warming.
    No gas or vapor is energy. You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are denying the 1st law of thermodynamics again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    The sooner our economy is retooled to supply the rest of the world with renewable energy technology,
    We already have it. Halliburton is doing well. They are very successful. Both oil and natural gas are renewable fuels.
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    the sooner we'll have sealed the US's place as the economic power of the future.
    We are already the leading economic power.
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    The GOP would rather live in the dark ages,
    No, that would be YOU and the Democrats. It is YOU that wants to cast away technology as 'evil', destroy the Constitution, and convert the United States into fascism by oligarchy.
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    and REMEMBER when the U.S. was great.
    It IS great. You've been listening to Obama too much.
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    They're treasonous cowards,
    No, you are describing the Democrats again.
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    as we're seeing with their comments after the impeachment hearings.
    It was the Democrats in the House that produced impeachment articles that don't even conform to the Constitutional test of impeachable offenses. It is the Democrats that perverted equal treatment under the law. I is the Democrats that have WASTED 3+ years trying to overturn the 2016 elections.It is the Democrats that violate and ignore the Constitution at every turn.
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    They have zero vision.
    Nope. You are describing the Democrats again.

    Inversion fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    You have literally not introduced a single point, fact, or argument.

    Not one. How blissful it must be to be this stupid.
    RDCF. RQAA. Argument of the Stone fallacies. Bulverism fallacy.

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    Hello Jerome,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    The sooner our economy is retooled to supply the rest of the world with renewable energy technology, the sooner we'll have sealed the US's place as the economic power of the future.

    The GOP would rather live in the dark ages, and REMEMBER when the U.S. was great. They're treasonous cowards, as we're seeing with their comments after the impeachment hearings. They have zero vision.
    Power junkies. Willing to sacrifice ideals for power.
    Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    It is not enough. We have to cut more emissions. The best case would be go carbon negative for a while. Trump saying it is a hoax, pulling out of Paris, other nations are asking why they should make any effort. That's bad leadership. The world is looking to us.

    Trump is wrong for the world, wrong for America. Dooming the future for our grandchildren is not making America great. Hottest decade ever. Will the next be even hotter?

    Climate change is THE most important issue for all human beings. Now is the time. We can't mess around any more.

    Trump scores worse than zero. He is a negative. We have to get rid of Trump to save the Climate. We have to do it now. We don't have 4 more years. Now. It has to be now. We have to get rid of Trump to save the climate.

    Get used to seeing a lot more climate protests. More Greta. This is not going away. You can't wish it away. Can't be tweeted away. We must take action now.
    Perhaps you hoax believers should start doing your part and either walking or riding a bike everywhere you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Perhaps you hoax believers should start doing your part and either walking or riding a bike everywhere you go.
    Some of them do, but they drive to somewhere to buy that bike, or have a truck deliver it. They also still live in a home that consumes fuel and work or go to class someplace that consumes fuel. That way they can pay for their bike when they buy it from someone that also lives in a home that consume fuel and works in a place that consumes fuel. Even constructing the bike requires a factory that also consumes fuel, using raw materials that come from other factories that consume fuel and ship it by methods that consume fuel.

    It's myopia and arrogance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Some of them do, but they drive to somewhere to buy that bike, or have a truck deliver it. They also still live in a home that consumes fuel and work or go to class someplace that consumes fuel. That way they can pay for their bike when they buy it from someone that also lives in a home that consume fuel and works in a place that consumes fuel. Even constructing the bike requires a factory that also consumes fuel, using raw materials that come from other factories that consume fuel and ship it by methods that consume fuel.

    It's myopia and arrogance.
    In other words, they don't practice what they preach to the level they want the rest of us to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In other words, they don't practice what they preach to the level they want the rest of us to do it.
    I think that's obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I think that's obvious.
    More than one on this forum, when asked why they don't do such things to the level they claim those thing should be done, has come up with an excuse.

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