You gotta give it back.
Curtain rods are so attached.
There seems to be a few lawyers on this board and I'd be interested in hearing your take on this.
I recently retired as a dentist and sold my records and equipment to another guy down the street.
The dentist uninstalled a vacuum pump from the mechanical room and took it away.
The landlord for my building claims this was "permanently attached" . The relevant portion of the lease says, " Tenant will not remove any... equipment and improvements permanently attached to said premises....".
I received a certified letter from the landlord stating, "...I have to insist that any equipment that was permently (sic) attached to the building and removed, is returned and reinstalled before 1/1/2020 to cure this breach of contract," referring to the vacuum pump I assume, he just says dental equipment.
The pump is hard wired with three electrical wires and essentially screwed in to place , but this does take maybe a couple of hours of effort by someone who has experience installing equpment and not necessarily a plumber.
Normally I would just ignore this. Dental equipment is installed and uninstalled all the time, no big deal.
However this guy has a reputation of being a bully and is involved in lawsuits almost all the time. The last lessor in this space was a community health center dental clinic and they were involved in a lawsuit with this nut for several yrs. over the same thing and finally settled with him because it was costing so much.
Personally I prefer to stand up to bullies, I'm now retired and I have the time. BUT, I will be moving to Washington sometime next summer and simply do not want to get involved in a lengthy legal proceeding having to fly in to Anchorage, legal costs, etc.
And this is over a vacuum pump I can get refurbished with a warranty on eBay for $89 and have installed in a couple of hrs.
I read the relevant portion of AK real estate law and it looks like the legal question here is 'what is considered permanent attachment'.
Please advise.
You gotta give it back.
Curtain rods are so attached.
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anonymoose (01-12-2020)
Not a lawyer, but if you are retired it shows you are probability secure and don't need the hassle, so walk away, why bother, let jacob marley have his moment, what comes around goes around
Still ain't figured out how a guy who grew up and lived in Louisiana winds up and Alaska, and now Washington, no humidity, no gnats, isn't there a someplace in between?
Answered already. Itchy feet after about 15 yrs. I can't stay in one place. Besides I had a great time for a while here. Used to do some serious whitewater kayaking, have world class cross country ski trails 10 minutes from my house, downhill skiing exactly 46 minutes from walking out my front door to sitting on the chair lift. The thrill is gone now. Time to move on.
'Hard wired' is usually considered 'permanently attached'. (I'm not a Lawyer either)
Like, if you have a 'push in' stove that you can plug in, that's NOT 'permanent'. But, if you have a 'push in' stove that is 'hard wired', then THAT is 'permanent equipment'.
Moose: "... sold my records and equipment to another guy down the street."
Jack: Sounds like it's HIS Problem.
Was the Vacuum Pump yours? Or was it the Landlord's?
Is YOUR name still on the Lease?
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
the landlord tenant laws are different in every state, but what you are dealing with is called a trade fixture.......unless the lease specifically says otherwise, its yours......
also, if the law in Alaska is consistent with most states he will have to sue you in Washington, not Alaska......that is called personal jurisdiction......
found it......Alaska law is the same.......
However, personal property attached to real estate by a tenant for business purposes is classified as a trade, or chattel, fixture and remains personal property.
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
anonymoose (01-13-2020)
That's kinda the way I was thinking - "tools of trade". However I won't be moving until next summer although there's a strong possibility we'll purchase a house next spring at which time I could declare that as my place of residency.
The other little technicality is that I could now possibly change my place of residency to Hawaii since I own a vacation rental there and go there quite often.
Jack (01-12-2020)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
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