Evolution vs Creationism---Is there a God? Or is it all just random chance?

[domer76]

I believe that God created the beginnings of life on this planet and watched his creations evolve. When man came on the scene he created Satan to tempt man. And here we are today.

^At least a more reasonable response from a believer. Rare.

[domer76]

That is exactly the reply I would expect from someone who is in denial that there is a higher authority than man. Many things test us on our desire for something, why not the creator? All I can say is if I'm right you lose everything and I gain everything but if I'm wrong I lose nothing.

Why does one lose everything if you are right?

[Iron-Merc]

^Why doesn't this surprise me?

Hello there buddy boy.

Don't make me say it...

[Eagle_Eye]

You are right and it is my fault for making assumptions

Thank you it takes a big person to admit they made a mistake.

[PostmodernProphet]

It's also not a scientific theory. It's a #strawman.

????.....you say evolution is a strawman?.....

[PostmodernProphet]

Now philosophically that doesn’t necessarily mean creationism is wrong. It just isn’t science.

the same is true for the fantasies some attribute to "evolution"......

[PostmodernProphet]

So for Creationist it boils down to put up or shut up. Either provide us with a model that works or be ignored by science. The choice is yours.

do you agree that science should ignore all models which cannot be tested by the scientific method?......

[USFREEDOM911]

I'm definitely a creationist at heart. I believe that God is real, Jesus is the son of God. Humans are chained to a lie because that is the desire of our enemy. Satan has made his kingdom here on earth and has great influence over the human race. As evidenced in the garden of Eden, he caused the fall of humanity, the turn away from God and this is how "death" entered into our vocabulary.

In reference to evolution, its still just a theory. For one there are no transition forms in the fossil record. For another 99% of all mutations are bad. Evolution is a mathematical impossibility when you sit down and look at the odds.

For example, if evolution were true, what is the deal with all the fraudulent fossils? Surely there would be no need to "fake" the missing links between species, yet this seems to be a re-occurring theme that evolutionists cannot escape from.

Please share you views on this, I am eager to gain in insight and knowledge and that is exactly what this thread is about. I don't want this to turn into a political pissing match. Let's not mock or demean, simply list your argument and your evidence and debate your points as you see fit.

Good luck and God speed!

I believe in GOD; but I also believe in evolution, because I believe that it's part of God's end goal.

We were given free will and at times it's a blessing and a curse; because while it can lead to great decisions, it can also lead to great disasters.

I also don't believe that who we are now, will be what defines humans at some time in the distant future.

I also don't believe that we are the only living things in all of the universes; because what would be the purpose for all of them, if it's just for us to look at.

We've only been on this planet for a very short period of time and no one has been able to explain to me how long GOD's day is.

[USFREEDOM911]

What's the point of tempting man? Some kind of divine amusement?

FREE WILL

[USFREEDOM911]

If I believed that there was such a being, which I do not, I would agree with you that you are correct. His tool is squatting in our White House at this present time. That you all worship a lying, cheating, bullying, cruel, and stupid man and believe that a god lifted him up to the highest office in the land shows how very clever Lucifer is. He has cloaked your eyes with dollar signs and false pride.

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[USFREEDOM911]

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So this god puts tempting things in front of us, and if we partake, we fail and are punished?

If a human parent did that, we'd call it child abuse.

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[USFREEDOM911]

That is exactly the reply I would expect from someone who is in denial that there is a higher authority than man. Many things test us on our desire for something, why not the creator? All I can say is if I'm right you lose everything and I gain everything but if I'm wrong I lose nothing.

I agree; but my comment is more like:

If I'm wrong, then I've just wasted my time; but if you're wrong, then you're just wasted.

[Guno צְבִי]

yes there is a g-d but Christianity is idolatry

[USFREEDOM911]

Now you are playing the let's be asinine non believers game. you do realize everything you mentioned is a part of man's evolution. Why does it bother you non believers so much that we believe in a supreme being? I believe it's fear you may be wrong so you must deride our beliefs to try to allay your fears!

It seems to boil down to their fear of the unknown and a need to have everything laid out in black and white.

[USFREEDOM911]

If you see derision towards you in my post that's on you. I'm merely questioning the existence of an arbitrary game-playing god who uses us for his amusement. I'm more of a pan-theist than an atheist. "If one god is real, they all are."

I can't speak for other non-Xtians, of course, but personally I don't care what someone believes as long as they don't use that belief to justify being an asshole.

No one has suggested that it's for GOD's amusement, except for the non-believers.